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    Discussion thread: One on One: AMR and JCWR on the Temporality of God

    We can discuss the One on One here.

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=53669

    To be honest I really don't know much about JCWR and I don't know what prompted this debate so I have no idea how this will go or how interesting it will be.
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    I'm looking forward to it.

    I admire AMR's theological knowledge and ability in debate and JCWR has proven himself to be nothing if not irenic, courteous and intellectually up to the challenge.

    Let the games begin!

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    nothing

    I know this is a kinder gentler TOL.

    But come on now!! I think so far AMR has basically said nothing.

    Nothing!

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    p.s. Come to think of it though, there's less there than there normally is to disagree with
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Enyart View Post
    I know this is a kinder gentler TOL.

    But come on now!! I think so far AMR has basically said nothing.

    Nothing!
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    That's too funny
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    We can discuss the One on One here.

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...ad.php?t=53588

    To be honest I really don't know much about JCWR and I don't know what prompted this debate so I have no idea how this will go or how interesting it will be.
    The link goes to a Christmas thread?
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    Oooops. It's fixed now. Sorry!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Enyart View Post
    I know this is a kinder gentler TOL.

    But come on now!! I think so far AMR has basically said nothing.

    Nothing!

    -Bob Enyart

    p.s. Come to think of it though, there's less there than there normally is to disagree with
    Yet with all his bad theology, he is in the Body of Christ because he believes he has failed, and that Jesus died for his sin and that the Father raised the son from the dead.

    And others that try really hard aren't.
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    JCWR, has made his first post. Very interesting.

    I like the way he kept it short and understandable.... call me lazy but my eyes glaze over when I see long posts.
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    JCWR despises me, from what I can tell. I am surprised he is opposing AMR, another one who does not like me.

    I must say that I am cheering for JCWR, because I think he is right on track.

    The one issue for credibility, though, is that his view is actually the A-theory of time, the one Open Theists resonate with. He is defending the A-theory, but calling it the B-theory.

    Could someone tell him to look into that before AMR thinks he lacks credibility?

    Keep his content, but correct his view to A vs B theory (A is dynamic/temporal; B is static/timeless).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Enyart View Post
    I know this is a kinder gentler TOL.

    But come on now!! I think so far AMR has basically said nothing.

    Nothing!

    -Bob Enyart

    p.s. Come to think of it though, there's less there than there normally is to disagree with
    For a moment there, Bob, I thought you actually understood the nature of entropy when applied to information theory. Oh, the irony! :squint:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight View Post
    JCWR, has made his first post. Very interesting.

    I like the way he kept it short and understandable.... call me lazy but my eyes glaze over when I see long posts.
    Prepare yourself for some serious glazing to come, then. I am up next in the debate.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ask Mr. Religion View Post
    Prepare yourself for some serious glazing to come, then. I am up next in the debate.
    Oh trust me I know... but it's all good because I haven't been sleeping so well lately.
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    Quote Originally Posted by godrulz View Post
    The one issue for credibility, though, is that his view is actually the A-theory of time, the one Open Theists resonate with. He is defending the A-theory, but calling it the B-theory.

    Could someone tell him to look into that before AMR thinks he lacks credibility?

    Keep his content, but correct his view to A vs B theory (A is dynamic/temporal; B is static/timeless).
    This from one who is a bastion of credibility?

    Anyway, the debate will proceed despite JCWR's apparent confusion on the topic. I will try and clear things up for you both.
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