Jerry Shugart
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Sure, it was the Apostles who had bumbling brains and not you!
ECT The Throne of David
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Sure, it was the Apostles who had bumbling brains and not you!
Right Divider
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Indeed, he's one of those crazy "spiritualizers" that cannot take God at His Word and must twist every part of the Bible based on their fairy tale.
Interplanner
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why on earth would Christ have told them they were going to all nations, only to turn around and affirm something about a theocracy for Israel, only to turn again and tell them they would get power to preach to all nations?
Keep your confusion to yourself; it is juvenile.
Keep your confusion to yourself; it is juvenile.
SaulToPaul 2
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The restoration of the Kingdom of Israel will not be according to the OT shadows which you hold to in your carnal mind.
and it will not be Jew specific but of all men who believe in Christ (with the emphasis on IN, and who overcome, with their new born mortal children.
We are since Pentecost, in the time of the raising of the Mother, who in the endtimes will have many children, a great multitude, which fulfills the promises of God to Abraham.
If you knew the Lord correctly then you would know He does not accept people into His Kingdom on the basis of what flesh they are.
Like Mother, like children from all nations and races--
Gal 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Gal 3:8 And the scripture, foreseeing that God would justify the heathen through faith, preached before the gospel unto Abraham, saying, In thee shall all nations be blessed.
Gal 3:9 So then they which be of faith are blessed with faithful Abraham.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
How much longer will you flatly refuse to believe the Apostles word given them by Jesus Christ?
LA
We who believe the word of the Apostles know that the Israel of God consists of true believers from all nations, and it is this Israel who will all be saved.
Gal 3:26 For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:27 For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
Gal 3:28 There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
Gal 3:29 And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Eph 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
Eph 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
Eph 2:15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
Eph 2:16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
Eph 2:17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
Eph 2:18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
Eph 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
Eph 2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
Eph 2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
Eph 2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
1Pe 2:2 As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may grow thereby:
1Pe 2:3 If so be ye have tasted that the Lord is gracious.
1Pe 2:4 To whom coming, as unto a living stone, disallowed indeed of men, but chosen of God, and precious,
1Pe 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
1Pe 2:6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
1Pe 2:7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
1Pe 2:8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
1Pe 2:9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
1Pe 2:10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
Rom 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:
Rom 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
Rom 9:8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
LA
Interplanner
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Here's 2P2P for you:
a plain statement about David's throne in Acts 2:30 can't possibly mean what it says, but a dark saying of Jesus rumored to support a theocracy, which nothing else does, is the masthead of 2P2Ps.
People who are so holy about claiming 'what the bible means' fight like weasels about Acts 2:30's plain meaning
a plain statement about David's throne in Acts 2:30 can't possibly mean what it says, but a dark saying of Jesus rumored to support a theocracy, which nothing else does, is the masthead of 2P2Ps.
People who are so holy about claiming 'what the bible means' fight like weasels about Acts 2:30's plain meaning
Jerry Shugart
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You can say that again and LA is even worse!
They think that they have been given a literary license to edit the whole OT and most of the NT!
To make matters worse they insist that they know more about the kingdom that did the Apostles--despite the fact that the Lord Jesus tutored the Apostles about the kingdom for forty days.
Jerry Shugart
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Peter said that the LORD resurrected the Lord Jesus in order that He can sit upon David's throne. Nothing even hints that Peter said that the Lord Jesus is now sitting on David's throne.
Interplanner
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'how then is he his son?'
One Lord was going to sit on the throne David saw in the vision. The purpose of David's monarchy is over, Acts 13. The biblical message has matured into Christ; you however, have not.
He's the son that was promised and he saw on the throne that was promised. There is no other. There is no complicated two person with two seats being two lords for confused two theologians on earth! The passages that have him seated on his throne NEVER mention some other venture he will go on. The OT ones that mention it were there to inspire them to hope in HE WHO FINALLY CAME and it has nothing to do with a monarchy or theocracy in Judea.
One Lord was going to sit on the throne David saw in the vision. The purpose of David's monarchy is over, Acts 13. The biblical message has matured into Christ; you however, have not.
He's the son that was promised and he saw on the throne that was promised. There is no other. There is no complicated two person with two seats being two lords for confused two theologians on earth! The passages that have him seated on his throne NEVER mention some other venture he will go on. The OT ones that mention it were there to inspire them to hope in HE WHO FINALLY CAME and it has nothing to do with a monarchy or theocracy in Judea.
You really fear quoting Scripture; don't you?
What - some two plus years on here already and you haven't quoted even one passage in its' entirety.
Not even one.
That is quite an accomplishment.
Not one lick of Scripture.
Not a one...
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Yep.... he's a weasel alright.
His usual response is, "You're smart, you claim to know the scripture... find it yourself".
He's quite the con-artist.
Interplanner
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You're a self-centered little con-man. QUOTE passages SPECIFICALLY and address them instead of your patented CHAPTER BLASTER, vague, almost a reference nonsense.
He has yet proven himself unable to.
You have yet proven him unable to.
You have proven yourself, however, VERY averse to citing even ONE verse.
Yo - RD - Ip wants to CON verse :chuckle:
Exactly :thumb:
Act 2:29 Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
Act 2:30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
Act 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
Act 2:32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
Act 2:33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
Act 2:34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
LA
SaulToPaul 2
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:chuckle: