Love is the fulfilling of the law. Jesus did not come to destroy love but to fulfill it. He expects us in turn to do the same.
The Gospel of Reconciliation Refutes the Calvinist Doctrine of Predestination
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Love is the fulfilling of the law. Jesus did not come to destroy love but to fulfill it. He expects us in turn to do the same.
Jerry Shugart
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He fulfilled the "types" found in the law, specifically the sacrifices and offerings.
In our name and on our behalf Jesus fulfilled the law and then abolished it, Ephesians 2:15.
musterion
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Chapter and verse on that part right there, please, that we're saved by His life.
True, and THAT is the good news of grace.
No, Robert. Again...if His perfect life is imputed to us, then He need not have died for our sins and the believer would need not have been counted as having died WITH Him.
No, he fulfilled the whole law. All of the demands of God's Holy Law have been fulfilled, Romans 5:19.
We are not under the law, nor are we subject to it. It has been fulfilled and abolished, Ephesians 2:15.
musterion
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God demands two things for the salvation of fallen man.
1. A life of perfect obedience that meets all of the demands of God's Holy Law, Romans 5:19.
2. A perfect sacrifice or atonement for the sins of man, 2 Corinthians 5:21.
There is no salvation for anyone if these two demands are not met.
musterion
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The problem we're having here, Robert, seems to be that you read Rom 5:19 as Christ having lived His perfect life under the Law for our sins, whereas we believe it was His obedience in dying for our sins that counts.
If Jesus did not fulfill the law for us, then who is it he fulfilled the law for?
His life was lived for our justification, Romans 3:26.
His death was for the atonement of our sins, 2 Corinthians 5:21.
We need both to be saved.
The law of commandments continuing in ordinances...the actual debt ticket of violation...the enmity is abolished not the Law...
Goodness as if we are Lawless...we are to establish the Law and the Law we establish reflects the god we worship...most establish 9/10ths of the Law...that is they have no problem with 9 of the laws...it's just that Sabbath one...that is the doozie...the one most reject...that is the sign...of seperation of His and...NOT His
musterion
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Jerry already told you.
No, Robert, He was RAISED FROM THE DEAD for our justification. Rom 4:25
The reason that God raised Jesus from the dead was because Jesus offered to God the Father a life of perfect obedience according to his Holy law. If one jot or tittle of the law was not fulfilled Jesus would still be in Joseph's new tomb.
All that Jesus was and all that Jesus did was for us. Unless you believe that Jesus fulfilled the law for himself. In Jesus Christ we have been justified, sanctified and redeemed, 1 Corinthians 1:30. We now stand complete in Christ, Colossians 2:10.
Where there is a void in doctrine the Christian will try to fill it himself. Which leads to legalism.
fishrovmen
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Romans 8:4. The righteous requirements of the law will be fulfilled IN us, not FOR us.
Romans 8 and Galatians 5 also lay out the principle of walking by the Spirit, and love being the fulfillment of the law.
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beloved57
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False teaching,using the word deceitfully !
beloved57
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False teaching. The Law was fulfilled for them Christ obeyed and died for, that's why by His obedience of One many are made righteous Rom 5:19 !
The blind teaching the blind.
All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for us. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
In our name and on our behalf Jesus fulfilled the law and atoned for our sins.
When God accepted Jesus back into heaven we were accepted in him.
All that Jesus is and all that Jesus did was for us. We are complete in him, Colossians 2:10.
In our name and on our behalf Jesus fulfilled the law and atoned for our sins.
When God accepted Jesus back into heaven we were accepted in him.
The worst thing about Calvinism is that it degrades God by making him a tyrant that condemns people to hell before they are born.
And then it dishonors Jesus Christ by claiming that he is not the savior of the whole world when scripture teaches that he is, 1 John 2:2.
Woe unto you Calvinist.
And then it dishonors Jesus Christ by claiming that he is not the savior of the whole world when scripture teaches that he is, 1 John 2:2.
Woe unto you Calvinist.
No, Pate, he fulfilled the law, to be qualified to be the satisfactory sacrifice, the propitiation. You vicarious lawkeeping assertion is from Calvinism, and the pits of hell.
Biblical laziness, spam, on your part.
Abolished the law?
OK to murder, covet, Pate? You misinterpreted the Ephesians passage, as usual, Pate.
Pate: The law no longer serves to bring the lost to Christ, let them know what sin is, as it is abolished!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Galatians 3:24 KJV Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
Romans 3:20 KJV Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.
Romans 7 KJV
7 What shall we say then? Is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I had not known sin, but by the law: for I had not known lust, except the law had said, Thou shalt not covet.
Your vicarious lawkeeping is straight from Calvinism, Pate, and hell.
To be qualified to be the propitiation, not so as his obedience, is credited, as ours, i.e., vicarious law keeping .
To be qualified to be the propitiation, not so as his obedience, is credited, as ours, i.e., vicarious law keeping .
He is our righteousness, only because we are in Him, i.e, not because He fulfilled the law in our place, and it is thus credited to our account. That is a doctrine of devils.
To be qualified to be the propitiation, not so as his obedience, is credited, as ours.