Repentance is Limited to Gods Elect/Chosen !

beloved57

beloved57

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Acts 17:30

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Now is this a universal command of God ? Yes by means ! Is it a command for all individuals universal ? No, by no means, its for the Elect or Chosen of God universally, God Spiritual Israel from amongst the jews and Gentiles. Repentance has been granted solely to Israel with the accompanying forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince anda Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

"a Saviour to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."

But to have us understand that this Israel is #1 Spiritual and #2 Universal reaching into all ethnic groups, we learn this Acts 11:18

When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.And that is why repentance with remission of sins should be preached universally to all nations Lk 24:46-47

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Cp Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness/remission of sins.

Now Israel is Gods Chosen, that is Spiritual Israel is, an Israel Chosen in Gods Chosen Christ !

Eph 1:4
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:



 
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blackbirdking

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beloved57 said:
Eph 1:4
According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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Yea, I just feel so sorry for those many who are not chosen; and, of course, those many who think they are chosen but are deceived, for the "glory of God".
 
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clefty

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beloved57 said:
Acts 17:30

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Now is this a universal command of God ? Yes by means ! Is it a command for all individuals universal ? No, by no means, its for the Elect or Chosen of God universally, God Spiritual Israel from amongst the jews and Gentiles. Repentance has been granted solely to Israel with the accompanying forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince anda Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

"a Saviour to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."

But to have us understand that this Israel is #1 Spiritual and #2 Universal reaching into all ethnic groups, we learn this Acts 11:18

When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.And that is why repentance with remission of sins should be preached universally to all nations Lk 24:46-47

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Cp Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness/remission of sins.

Now Israel is Gods Chosen, that is Spiritual Israel is, an Israel Chosen in Gods Chosen Christ !

Eph 1:4
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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You are asking Him to wink again at your ignorance as RIGHT THERE it says now ALL men everywhere are commanded to repent.
 
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clefty

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beloved57 said:
Did you understand the points I made?

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Yes you are overlooking the idea He winked but now called.

It is not

30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, planned but and now commands all men His preselected to repent,"

One overlooks or winks at or allows something unplanned...this time of ignorance was tolerated...

One does not initiate something already predestined to occur anyway

You are adding to the word to make it say as you wish...
 
beloved57

beloved57

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clefty said:
Yes you are overlooking the idea He winked but now called.

It is not

30 "Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, planned but and now commands all men His preselected to repent,"

One overlooks or winks at or allows something unplanned...this time of ignorance was tolerated...

One does not initiate something already predestined to occur anyway

You are adding to the word to make it say as you wish...
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Good, please review the points I made with scripture with me.

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Nanja

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beloved57 said:
Acts 17:30

And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

Now is this a universal command of God ? Yes by means ! Is it a command for all individuals universal ? No, by no means, its for the Elect or Chosen of God universally, God Spiritual Israel from amongst the jews and Gentiles. Repentance has been granted solely to Israel with the accompanying forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince anda Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

"a Saviour to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins."

But to have us understand that this Israel is #1 Spiritual and #2 Universal reaching into all ethnic groups, we learn this Acts 11:18

When they heard these things, they held their peace, and glorified God, saying, Then hath God also to the Gentiles granted repentance unto life.And that is why repentance with remission of sins should be preached universally to all nations Lk 24:46-47

46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behooved Christ to suffer, and to rise from the dead the third day:
47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Cp Acts 5:31

31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness/remission of sins.

Now Israel is Gods Chosen, that is Spiritual Israel is, an Israel Chosen in Gods Chosen Christ !

Eph 1:4
4According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
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Amen Brother. Repentance and remission of sins is not preached as conditions that must be done to become saved, but rather are things given that accompany Salvation as a result of Christ's Death for them. And God's Elect, the Seed of Christ, Spiritual Israel [jew and Gentile], is limited to the portion of humanity which was promised Salvation in Christ Is. 45:17.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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Repentance is Limited to Gods Elect/Chosen ! 2

You see, repentance is based upon in the evangelical sense, the forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem

Its the Chosen in Christ who have forgiveness of sins, Eph 1:4,7

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

In whom we [The Chosen in Christ the Beloved Vs4] have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
 
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clefty

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beloved57 said:
God doesn't feel sorry for the ones He didn't choose !
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Ezekiel 18:23
"Do I have any pleasure in the death of the wicked," declares the Lord GOD, "rather than that he should turn from his ways and live?

Ezekiel 18:32
"For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone who dies," declares the Lord GOD. "Therefore, repent and live."

Ezekiel 33:11
"Say to them, 'As I live!' declares the Lord GOD, 'I take no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but rather that the wicked turn from his way and live. Turn back, turn back from your evil ways! Why then will you die, O house of Israel?'

John 3:17
For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through Him.

Romans 11:14
[b/]in the hope that I may provoke my own people to jealousy and save some of them.[/b]

1 Timothy 4:10
To this end we labor and strive, because we have set our hope on the living God, who is the Savior of all men, and especially of those who believe.

2 Timothy 2:25
He must gently reprove those who oppose him, in the hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth
 
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clefty

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beloved57 said:
You see, repentance is based upon in the evangelical sense, the forgiveness of sins Acts 5:31

Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins.

Lk 24:47

And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem

Its the Chosen in Christ who have forgiveness of sins, Eph 1:4,7

According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

In whom we [The Chosen in Christ the Beloved Vs4] have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
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Repentance means return...why return if you are meant to go that way?

Once saved you will surely not die...is the same lie Eve believed thinking herself chosen...
 
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Robert Pate

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Calvinism: The belief that God predestinates men, women and children to hell before they are born.

You might be better off to believe in no God at all, than to blasphemy him and his Son Jesus Christ with this false doctrine.
 
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Robert Pate

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clefty said:
This is your thread you are the lead...

teachers determine if students understand based on their responses not on asking do you understand?

So did I understand you?

If not keep teaching...
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This is what he is teaching.

CALVINISM: The belief that God predestinates people to hell before they are born.
 
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