ECT Dear wolves/wolf-ette's, children of the devil, Cain, Jr.'s,: What sins?
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Nope.
The Father sent The Son.
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He sent Himself as a Man.
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:yawn: Let the reader decide (Eph 4:14).each:
You need to stop deceitfully changing people's quotes. You are proof that truth has no place in your heart.
:yawn: I'm not here to teach you English 101. Eph 4:14
marhig
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In the Bible it says that God was in Christ Jesus reconciling the world unto himself, and that's what I believe. So Christ is my saviour because I hear his voice and I believe! Nowhere at all does it say that I have to believe that Jesus is God. But that I am to believe that he is the son of God. And I do! So you can't say that i have to believe that Jesus is God for him to be my saviour because it doesn't say that anywhere in the Bible!
Where did I say that Jesus was never a king? I said that he isn't God! God has exalted Christ Jesus to be over his kingdom, God has made him a king. He is the king of kings, But that doesn't make him the Almighty God!
Philippians 2
Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
Matthew 26
But I say unto you, I will not drink henceforth of this fruit of the vine, until that day when I drink it new with you in my Father's kingdom.
So you don't believe Jesus is Lord, God, Savior, King?
Scripture says He is.
If The Father has to die before The Son is King, then The Son would never be King.
Scripture says He is.
Only if He is GOD.
Isaiah 43:11 KJV
(11) I, even I, am the LORD; and beside me there is no saviour.
Hosea 13:4 KJV
(4) Yet I am the LORD thy God from the land of Egypt, and thou shalt know no god but me: for there is no saviour beside me.
Scripture does.
You say GOD cannot die, so The Son cannot be King unless The Father dies.
So when did The Father die so The Son could be King?
ROFL!
The Father did not send Himself!
That would mean The Father sent The Father!
Scripture does not say The Father sent Himself.
Scripture says The Father sent The Son.
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The Father sent Himself as a Son.
Was Jesus praying to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane? :smokie:
As a reminder God's Truth is number 39 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:
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There is only One God, and He is the Father.
Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.
God is the one God and Father of all, and He is in all the SAVED.
That is Jesus.
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It's a yes or no question. Was Jesus praying to himself in the Garden of Gethsemane?
marhig
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You didn't answer my question? Thanks
marhig
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It was God in Christ reconciling the world unto himself not Christ being God reconciling the world unto himself!
And God put Christ over his kingdom!
Philippians 2
And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.*Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of*things*in heaven, and*things*in earth, and*things*under the earth;*And*that*every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ*is*Lord, to the glory of God the Father.
What question was that?
marhig
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Well you should be agreeing with GT. Seeing as you believe in only one God? Because if you don't believe that Jesus is the father then you believe that there is two Gods and not one!
marhig
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This one
You say that you've learned from experience? Can I ask you this. Can you knowing it is wrong before God to do something, just go out and wilfully do it?
Oh that one; I did see it and meant to answer it, but forgot to. My bad.
For actually, the answer that immediately popped up into my mind was this here...
Romans 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein? 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
6:6 Knowing this, that our old man is crucified with him, that the body of sin might be destroyed, that henceforth we should not serve sin. 6:7 For he that is dead is freed from sin. 6:8 Now if we be dead with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with him: 6:9 Knowing that Christ being raised from the dead dieth no more; death hath no more dominion over him. 6:10 For in that he died, he died unto sin once: but in that he liveth, he liveth unto God. 6:11 Likewise reckon ye also yourselves to be dead indeed unto sin, but alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord. 6:12 Let not sin therefore reign in your mortal body, that ye should obey it in the lusts thereof.
He is building off of what he has laid out in chapter 5.
He is basically asking "just because we have eternal security - just because we "shall be saved from wrath through His life" - does that mean we should live any way we please?
God forbid!
He then goes into all that.
In short, no - the Believer should not live anyway he pleases just because "we shall be saved from wrath through His life..."
marhig
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Sorry maybe it's the way I'm asking, but you still didn't answer my question, can you personally wilfully sin knowing it's wrong to do what you're doing before God.
Can you just carry on and do it regardless, when you know you're doing wrong? In your day to day life I mean?
I'm just going out, I'll answer anything else later. Thanks