Warning against Trump alarmism
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annabenedetti
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i know you know
Made you post twice. :chuckle:
ok doser
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In other words: Donald Trump is palatable to you liberals and Libertarians as long as he doesn't mess with abortion and LGBTQ rights (the core of your belief system), which he has no intention of doing.
You're confusing conservatism with Libertarianism, which you and a good majority of Donald Trump supporters are.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
thrice! :banana:
Give it time; he's working on it :chuckle:
No need to - Trump drones are doing just fine carrying his endless bucket of vile to the masses.
Trump Drone?
Red cap; white letters; made in China.
Red, white, and yellow.
Cause Massa Don the Blonde Con Trump says so.
I'm not sure what you mean by tempering reaction or reining it in. I can't speak for Nichols but I am not saying we should let things slide or give Trump a pass or even pick battles. Mostly what I am saying is that critics should be accurate about what they say and keep things in perspective. An example is the immigration issue. It isn't a Muslim ban. I'm aware of what Trump said during his campaign and who he has surrounded himself with and that gives me a skeptical eye at his actions but I don't think it's productive to claim it's a Muslin ban when there is no way to say that except by talking about ulterior motives. And there is plenty to criticize without even calling it a Muslim ban. If critics aren't careful about what they say I think it could end up being detrimental to the cause.
And I hope that the media pushes back against any attempt to silence them.
annabenedetti
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And yet Giuliani stated that Trump called him and asked him how to legally do a "Muslim ban."
But I think the most telling thing is in the order itself, which says the US will "prioritize refugee claims made by individuals on the basis of religious-based persecution, provided that the religion of the individual is a minority religion in the individual’s country of nationality."
I'm aware of both of those things and stand by what I said.
annabenedetti
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Fair enough.
Do you know if this part is temporary also?
annabenedetti
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No, I don't.
Well that's disappointing.
If it's not temporary then I think the administration would have a harder time denying a motivation to keep Muslims out.It's as close to a Muslim ban as they thought they could get away with. And so far, they can't. And beyond that, it's historically stupid policy. I honestly don't know how the courts will rule on this thing, but I am certain that it's already made us significantly less safe, and it's based on a wink-and-nod white Christian nationalism.
Don't really disagree with you there.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
what's wrong with banning mooslims?