Poor LA posts a lot, but says nothing.
ECT What Madists never preach.
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SaulToPaul 2
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The burden is great for self appointed spiritual gurus, who are rarely appreciated in their own time. LA might be looking to start his own religion.
Written to the House of Israel. Learn to rightly divide God's word.
heir
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The gospel of Christ (1 Corinthians 15:1-4 KJV) is the word of truth, the gospel of our salvation (Ephesians 1:13-14 KJV)! Why don't you believe it is the power of God to save you (Romans 1:16 KJV)?
musterion
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Paul said he knew nothing among the Corinthians except Christ and Him crucified, which he preached as good news. He did not present Christ according to the flesh (as recorded in M/M/L/J), and so did not reiterate the sermon on the mount, the beatitudes, etc. What he DID do was preach Christ according to the revelation of the musterion which he alone received directly from God.
In early Acts, on the other hand, Peter, James and John did not preach Christ's death as good news for mankind. They were still operating under a different good news at that point, one still focused on getting national Israel to repent before her Messiah and fulfill the role they promised to fulfill under Moses.
MAD wins again.
In early Acts, on the other hand, Peter, James and John did not preach Christ's death as good news for mankind. They were still operating under a different good news at that point, one still focused on getting national Israel to repent before her Messiah and fulfill the role they promised to fulfill under Moses.
MAD wins again.
Interplanner
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Artificial madness in theology again.
Simply compare the sermon in Acts 13 with Acts 2&3 (or with Gal 3) and you'll see that there is seamless agreement.
There is of course an effort to get Israel to be missionaries of the same world-targeting Gospel. That is why Pentecost happened (in spite of unbelief about the Gospel)--those people would return home with a message which they might not even have believed, but if they reported it, it was the Gospel and it was for the nations. That is what Christ and the apostles wanted Israel to speak and to be, as can be seen all through Acts.
It is not in conflict with the drift of the prophets but is exactly what they meant. They never meant a restored theocracy. They were always a step beyond or away from that.
Rom 10:14+ is probably the best single indication of this. It is clear that the one Gospel is for all the world (from the preceding) and clear that Paul wanted as many of his fellow Jews to be missionaries of it, because of the 'how beautiful...' line from Isaiah, and the disappointment of v16.
When we read 'God's salvation has been sent...' at the end of Acts, it is not without a generation of appealing to Israel to be the missionaries of it. It now becomes an effort mostly led by Gentiles. There are no mind-games with Israel where the shift was going to happen anyway; they just weren't getting it. God wanted to use any of them and did use any of them that he could.
You are sadly mistaken, read the whole book of Acts then Romans thru Philemon for proper understanding
Interplanner
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No mistake: the promises to the fathers were for the whole world and fulfilled in Christ's Gospel. That's in Acts 2, 3, 13, 26, Rom 3, 4, Gal 3, 4.
Mad hogwash.
Jesus Christ (after His baptism of both water and Spirit) was presented in the gospels as the Son of God, not a man of the flesh.
You do not reiterate the sermon on the mount because not only you disregard them but they never describe you, poor man.
You speak a pack of porkies, which keeps you from receiving the Holy Spirit.
The good news has always been of the coming Kingdom of God on earth and the need for Christs death to atone for mans sin, so the repentant can live in it.
It is all part and parcel of the same good news.
LA
Not speaking to the gentiles nor the Body of Christ. Once again, you're
wrong. What else is new.
Mar 8:34 And when he had called the people unto him with his disciples also, he said unto them, Whosoever will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
Mar 8:35 For whosoever will save his life shall lose it; but whosoever shall lose his life for my sake and the gospel's, the same shall save it.
Mar 8:36 For what shall it profit a man, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul?
Mar 8:37 Or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?
Mar 8:38 Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.
You're lost. You poor soul. Any death predictions for today?
Written to the twelve tribes of the House of Israel. Not the Body of Christ.
LAs ignorance is beyond belief.
As with all evil doers, you never bring up the evil things you said which bought those responses from Gods word.
Psa 7:11 God judgeth the righteous, and God is angry with the wicked every day.
Psa 7:12 If he turn not, He will whet his sword; He hath bent his bow, and made it ready.
Psa 7:13 He hath also prepared for him the instruments of death; He ordaineth his arrows against the persecutors.
Psa 7:14 Behold, he travaileth with iniquity, and hath conceived mischief, and brought forth falsehood.
Psa 7:15 He made a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch which he made.
Psa 7:16 His mischief shall return upon his own head, and his violent dealing shall come down upon his own pate.
LA
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There are no such distinctions when he said that or when it was written down. The battle-planning imagery was directed at the zealots, and Christ gave them the benefit of the doubt of having half the strength of the Roman army, which of course they did not--to make his point even more clear. The body of Christ was not going to fight Rome anyway.
This Charming Manc
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Don't have a clue what you're talking about. Don't try to explain
further, I'm not interested in what you have to say pal.
You're one of the oddest posters on TOL. Glad to not know you personally.