During the rule of the "anti-christ" there will be signs and wonders, however, they will not be coming from God.
ECT Speaking in tongues
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Whereas God is silent today, I believe Satan and his fallen angels are not.
Amen.
If one wishes to hear from God, they need only open their Bible. The Bible is a Spiritual book and is used by the Holy Spirit to speak to men's hearts and minds.
In 1 Corinthians 14:19 Paul states: "Yet in the church I had rather speak five words with my understanding, that by my voice I might teach others also, than ten thousand words in an unknown tongue."
Even Paul's preference is speaking in a language he can understand.
Even Paul's preference is speaking in a language he can understand.
I don't believe that "Tongues is for today." The focus ought to be the "Grace Gospel" being preached to unbelievers. So that they may hear the Gospel and place their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ.
Hi and Col 1:25 says that Paul of which bacame a servant acording to the Dispensation of God , the One having been given to me for you , to COMPLETE THR WORD OF God , so for the Dispensation of God is COMPLETE and we are complete in Him !!
dan p
The problem is, tongues can be faked, tongues can be taught and tongues can be practiced. What need would there be for these if they truly came from God?
True.
A woman who knows Hebrew. She said was angry asked if her husband knew that she was in love with a Jew. You don't believe anyway--:listen: why ask?
I'm not sure why those with the gift of tongues
should yield to the likes of you--devoid of the spirit. The Holy Spirit will do what he likes and he's not asking for your permission. Mk 16:17Hi and what all fail , PENTECOSTALS , to see is that we HAVE
THE HOLY SPIRIT living with in and He speaks to all through His completed WORD !!
We do not need to speak in tongues as Spirit of God dwells with in !!
DAN P
1 Cretans and Arabs—we hear them speaking in our own tongues the wonderful works of God.”
22Therefore tongues are for a sign, not to those who believe but to unbelievers; but prophesying is not for unbelievers but for those who believe.
I don't know what kind of ears you have (Jn 12:29, Mk 4:9). :idunno:
Those books were pertaining to the House of Israel. :idunno:
musterion
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The assembled Jews in town for the festivities heard the believers speak each in his own language.
Either that was exactly what it says -- speaking in human languages the speakers did not know -- or it was a miracle on the end of the hearers, making it a gift of hearing more than a gift of tongues.
Since that second option is out, what they heard was miraculously spoken actual human languages.
What no one hears today is miraculously spoken actual human languages.
Unless there's verifiable audio out there somewhere...not here on TOL...
Either that was exactly what it says -- speaking in human languages the speakers did not know -- or it was a miracle on the end of the hearers, making it a gift of hearing more than a gift of tongues.
Since that second option is out, what they heard was miraculously spoken actual human languages.
What no one hears today is miraculously spoken actual human languages.
Unless there's verifiable audio out there somewhere...not here on TOL...
Interplanner
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There is no such thing as books/letters pertaining to the house of Israel. Even "Hebrews" has tons in for all mankind, and says so.
But the reason the statement is true about God not speaking to individuals anymore is that Christ is such a complete commmunication. It is not due to various tenuous D'ist changes. There was the pre-Christian era and now there is Christ.
musterion
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1 Thess 5:21
I'm not sure why those with the gift of tongues
Well in that case I'm exactly the one intended to benefit by hearing them. 1 Cor 14:22
Go ahead and make it about us. We know you have no evidence because you know you have no gift.
Likewise as to "healings."
Nope.
Throughout Scripture, when God is behind signs and wonders; the Adversary is behind their counterfit.
As God gradually moved away from signs and wonders to a greater and greater focus on doctrine (on working through His Word in you that Believe - in other words; in Body members) what do we see Paul warning the Adversary was up to?
Also gradually moving away from a counterfeit of the one, to a counterfeit of the other.
So that by the time that which was perfect had reached its fullness; so had the Adversary's counterfeit.
The core of each having reached their respective fulness; neither is now in engaged in the signs and wonders aspect during this Mystery Age, until some point after the fullness of this Mystery Age itself.
Just a matter of rightly dividing things within Romans thru Philemon.