I will be voting for Hillary Clinton.
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annabenedetti
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I was using sarcasm, chrys.
I'm going to vote against Trump. You can write in Jeb.
My vote will work better against Trump than yours will.
PureX
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When enough of us are finally willing to stop voting based on fear of the "worse" candidate, and stop voting for the DNC's "less worse" candidate, they will hear us loud and clear.
Nothing about Hillary Clinton indicates to me that she is anything other than another corporate sponsored candidate looking to become anther corporate sponsored political crony. And I don't see that as an option. Even if it's a better option than a wanna-be petty dictator. Because two bad options don't magically make one of them a good option.
annabenedetti
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That's not going to happen, PureX. What needs to happen is the GOP needs to make sure there's a smaller field of candidates, and the Dems need to get rid of superdelegates.
No they don't, that's the dilemma a lot of voters are facing. But when I weigh the two options and one of them is fundamentally worse, I'm going to vote against the one who's fundamentally worse.
annabenedetti
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The principle of double effect.
My vote will work better against Trump than yours will.
who is asking you what is going to happen? -
we just want to know what you think should happen -
can you handle that?
annabenedetti
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Who asked you to butt into my comment to PureX?
I can handle any passive-aggressive crap you want to throw at me, chrys, but you'll have to make it quick. I have to leave in 5 minutes.
annabenedetti
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you can make it quick by answering my question
annabenedetti
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What should happen?
What should have happened is that Republicans shouldn't have voted for Trump in the primary.
DavidK
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And in spite of the list he floated, we really have no idea what we'll get with Trump. The man is an opportunist and will say whatever he feels he needs to say to gain advantage at the given moment.
I'll either abstain or vote for a candidate I think I could actually support. I won't vote for someone of depraved character who may or may not nominate the kind of judge I'd deem a wise choice and would do a whole lot of other serious damage even in the highly unlikely event he should he get the court nomination right.
PureX
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The Dems have the super delegates specifically to over-ride the popular vote when the popular vote doesn't favor their preferred candidate. This recent primary is EXACTLY why they had that system in place. And the head of the DNC admitted it, publicly.
To get rid of the super delegates is to change the whole mind-set of the democratic political party. Which is what needs to happen. And the only way I know of that this could happen is that they start losing their voter support in a big way.
Well, that depends on how you assess what's "fundamentally worse" than what. If Trump were to be elected, I think he would be so incompetent that he'd either have to be removed from office, or he would just be stonewalled into political impotency by the joint legislature, and then dumped the next election cycle.
But if Ted Cruz or Chris Christie or one of the other terrible republican candidates had become president, and he retained a republican majority in the house and the senate, the nation would be in very grave jeopardy. Because they are no different from Trump in their own selfish ambition, but they are far more politically savvy, and would therefor be far more effective in their cause. And this country cannot endure any more political effectiveness that follows the current trend. We either need political stagnation, or serious positive political reform.
annabenedetti
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that is not a principle -
who would you choose to support, hitler or russia? -
the pope had to decide that
annabenedetti
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Yes it is. Don't be coy.
DavidK
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Can you point me toward something that will tell me more about your reference here? My historical knowledge of the Pope's need to support Hitler or Russia is lacking, but I'd like to keep up.
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