Satan is not "evil" to the Jews (Orthodox Theology)

beameup

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In the Talmud, Satan is a servant of God, obeys God, and part of God's team of angels. He does not sin!
Instead, it is YHWH God that "creates evil", and this verse is used
: Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things."
Jews-for-Judaism rabbi presentation:
 
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Hawkins

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The Talmud is a fabrication after AD200. Tell us more about the Jews back in Jesus' time instead.
 

beameup

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How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer [shining one], son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit. - Isaiah 14:12-15

This same "shining one" appeared to Eve in the Garden of Eden.
 

beameup

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Jewish "Satanology": What Does Judaism Believe About Satan?
The Hebrew word "Satan" means "Hinderer." To hinder someone means to hold him back, to try to prevent him from doing something. G-d created the Hinderer to give us work to do in this world. Satan is here to make things difficult for us, so we can overcome our evil temptations, and PASS the test. That is the purpose of Satan. Satan is an angel whose purpose ("job") has been determined by G-d.

Temptation is there to try and deter us. It gives us the ability to do the wrong thing. More importantly, it gives us the ability to look at evil and refuse to do it. By presenting us with the opportunity to do evil, it gives us the ability to choose between good and evil. The ability to choose between good and evil is what gives us free will.

So, in order for us to work for the good that Hashem wants to give us, the good of the World to Come, we need something to deter us. That is the ability to do evil. Satan is our Evil Inclination (Yetzer Hara). The Evil Inclination tries to prevent us from doing good, because Hashem (G-d) has commanded the Evil Inclination to do that. Why? To give us free will.

Each of us every day fights with Satan. We all have temptations, throughout the day. But we, as the Children of Israel, have the power to overcome even angels, if we work at it. Therefore, the **Talmud says that men are greater than angels, for we can fight with an angel (Satan) and win.

The truth is that Satan has a job to do, just like every other angel. And angels have no free will. They do as Hashem (G-d) commands them.

So now we have to revise our understanding of Satan. Satan is not a fallen angel. Satan is merely an angel with a dirty job. Satan does not have a rival kingdom. Satan is not in competition with G-d, and Satan does not want followers or worshipers. He's not even happy when people obey him and sin.

Likewise, the snake in the Garden of Eden was not Satan either, though confused Christians think it was. The snake had his own motivations, which I will not go into now. He was what the Torah calls a "Seducer," someone who, for whatever reason, tries to get other people to sin.
http://www.beingjewish.com/basics/satan.html
 

Bradley D

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Satan in Hebrew means accuser. One can see Satan's role in the book of Job. In Rev. 12:7-12 because of Christ's glory Archangel Michael was able to toss Satan out of heaven down to earth where he will be a tempter till Christ's return
 
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