I agree.
ECT Christ suffered and died to atone for the sins of believers.
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I agree.
God's Truth
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That is good to hear. Do you call some people 'Rabbi'?
Reference # please
From my original post:
My point was about the term 'yoke'.
I really don't see the problem, but I am open to suggestions if you have an alternate way to present this without using the term 'rabbi'.
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God's Truth
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Show me from the Holy Bible where someone is called Rabbi.
God's Truth
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I am not going to find a post for you. Just answer the question. Do you have the Holy Spirit?
marhig
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I have been careful to distinguish what words mean in the past days.
Grace is indeed no license to sin.
However, the Royal Priesthood is no License to condemn others in flesh.
Luke 18:
9 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous and looked down on everyone else: 10 “Two men went up to the temple complex to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. 11 The Pharisee took his stand[e] and was praying like this: ‘God, I thank You that I’m not like other people[f] —greedy, unrighteous, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. 12 I fast twice a week; I give a tenth[g] of everything I get.’
13 “But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even raise his eyes to heaven but kept striking his chest[h] and saying, ‘God, turn Your wrath from me—a sinner!’ 14 I tell you, this one went down to his house justified rather than the other; because everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”
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Please expound on this Parable for me verse by verse, as it is Jesus's teaching.
Jesus is teaching about how you are not to condemn individual people, I'm not talking about individuals I'm not a judge and I don't know individual hearts, but I know that the teaching of once saved always saved is wrong, as is telling people that even if they sin and wilfully too, then they are still saved and going to heaven, that's not right. We must obey the living God and turn from sinning. I'm talking about the teaching not the people. I just hope that they see in the Bible that that's wrong, because it clearly shows that once we know God and belong to Christ that we shouldn't continue sinning.
What do you think that Jesus meant when he said deny yourself and take up your cross and follow him? He said those who do not take up their cross are not worthy of him!
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Christ suffered and died to atone for the sins of believers.
I claim the sacrifice of Jesus as the propitiation for my sins.
I admit my need for Jesus.
I pray for the Comforters guidance as I read Scripture, live my life and come across others.
I answer straight forward with:
The Holy Spirit dwells within me, and I am in the Holy Spirit.
Now please tell me, do you believe Jesus is YHWH?
I claim the sacrifice of Jesus as the propitiation for my sins.
I admit my need for Jesus.
I pray for the Comforters guidance as I read Scripture, live my life and come across others.
I answer straight forward with:
The Holy Spirit dwells within me, and I am in the Holy Spirit.
Now please tell me, do you believe Jesus is YHWH?
marhig
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No he isn't
Everyone's cross is different, and to say we are without sin is to deny the Truth.
Is this not biblical?
Is it not His righteousness that sustains us?
1 John 4:8
marhig
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I thought you said it was wrong to judge people? You sound very self righteous!
marhig
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Do you wilfully sin?
Christ suffered and died to atone for the sins of believers.
Marhig,
It is an important question in light of GT condemning me and claiming to be as righteous as the Son of God.
It is deceitful to deny that He is God and demand perfection from the flesh of Gods children before they receive their full inheritance at the time they are changed per 1 Cor 15.
I have repeatedly told GT that I trust Gods ability to Love and save her as she is, but I will not tolerate being condemned because I speak honestly, nor tolerate the Grace of God being frustrated.
And Marhig,
I do not condemn my family of Arian theology. But I have to know If GT respects that we are not in the flesh as Christ was in the flesh.
Do you count Jesus the Son of God from the Father and a God?
Marhig,
It is an important question in light of GT condemning me and claiming to be as righteous as the Son of God.
It is deceitful to deny that He is God and demand perfection from the flesh of Gods children before they receive their full inheritance at the time they are changed per 1 Cor 15.
I have repeatedly told GT that I trust Gods ability to Love and save her as she is, but I will not tolerate being condemned because I speak honestly, nor tolerate the Grace of God being frustrated.
And Marhig,
I do not condemn my family of Arian theology. But I have to know If GT respects that we are not in the flesh as Christ was in the flesh.
Do you count Jesus the Son of God from the Father and a God?
marhig
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We are all in sinful flesh, but we shouldn't be wilfully sinning. When Jesus forgave the woman taken in adultery he told her to go sin no more.
We are not to wilfuly sin anyone
Do you believe Paul?
Hebrews 10
For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins
Yes.
I have before, and I'm certain I will again.
I acknowledge that this is utter failure and ruin, but my salvation doesn't depend on me, it depends on Him.
I am human, thus I fail.
Do you believe Jesus ever sinned?
This is true.
Paul teaches this with these verses...
Romans 7:
15 For I do not understand what I am doing, because I do not practice what I want to do, but I do what I hate. 16 And if I do what I do not want to do, I agree with the law that it is good. 17 So now I am no longer the one doing it, but it is sin living in me. 18 For I know that nothing good lives in me, that is, in my flesh. For the desire to do what is good is with me, but there is no ability to do it. 19 For I do not do the good that I want to do, but I practice the evil that I do not want to do. 20 Now if I do what I do not want, I am no longer the one doing it, but it is the sin that lives in me.
Be ye perfect as Christ is perfect is not about the flesh and go and sin no more isn't a warning that we are initially saved by His forgiveness, but stripped of it if we fail again.
Peter denied Christ 3 times after He had met Him.
marhig
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I don't believe that Jesus ever sinned, and he came as an example for us to follow, and I certainly don't believe that it's ok to wilfully sin and think your going to heaven. The holy spirit should be stopping us from wilfully sinning. Our conscience should be in overdrive and we should be denying ourselves, Jesus taught us to deny ourselves we are to deny our flesh, Satan sins not Christ, so we should be denying Satan by stopping wilfully sinning.
Do you not believe Jesus when he said we must deny ourselves?
marhig
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Peter hadn't been given the power of the holy spirit when he denied Jesus, he certainly didn't deny him once Jesus strengthened him.
Peter wasn't converted when he denied Jesus. He was still weak because he didn't have the power of the holy spirit, if we've got the spirit in our hearts, we'll be turning from wilful sin.
Luke 23
And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and when thou art converted, strengthen thy brethren.