Finland fined driver $60,000 for going 14 mph over the limit

The Berean

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Socialism at its "best"! :rotfl:

Finland fined this driver $60,000 for going 14 mph over the limit

Unlike in the United States, where the flat fine is based on location and speed over the limit, Finland bases the penalty also as a percentage of daily income, according to the previous year’s tax return. Since Reima Kuisla earned over 6.5 million euros ($7 million) in 2013, he had a penalty equivalent to a brand-new BMW M3. The rationale is that the fine should sting for anyone, whether they’re scraping by or living in the lap of luxury. Unsurprisingly, Kuisla isn’t a fan of progressive penalties:

"Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that I would seriously consider moving abroad. Finland is impossible to live in for certain kinds of people who have high incomes and wealth," said Kuisla on his Facebook page.
 
shagster01

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Wait, I thought it was republicans that want everyone to pay the same percentage on things? It's what they want on taxes, right?

Or is that only when it benefits the rich, not hurts them?
 
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actually, i like the concept

taken to its logical conclusion it would mean that broke and indebted people like me would be paid to speed! :banana:
 
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shagster01

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So are republicans for (fair) flat % tax/fines or not?

They want everyone to pay the same % of tax on income, but want poor people to pay higher % on fines? Makes no sense.
 
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Seems reasonable to me. We don't want people to get a greater sense of impunity from the law with the increase in wealth. If a speeding ticket is 50% of your take-home pay for a week, it could put you into a financial tailspin that could end up causing a bigger problem than we're trying to avert in enforcing the law. And on the other hand, of it is 0.00001% of your income, you might just do it and risk the ticket.
 
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The Berean said:
"Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that I would seriously consider moving abroad. Finland is impossible to live in for certain kinds of people who have high incomes and wealth," said Kuisla on his Facebook page.[/I]
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Yeah, people who go 14mph over the limit. :eek:
 
way 2 go

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The Berean said:
"Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that I would seriously consider moving abroad. Finland is impossible to live in for certain kinds of people who have high incomes and wealth," said Kuisla on his Facebook page.[/I]
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I wonder how much it will cost finland if he leaves ?

i bet more than 60,000. :black:
 
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I don't know if I'd go this high fine-wise but I see little problem in proportional punishment.
 
zoo22

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The Berean said:
Socialism at its "best"! :rotfl:

Finland fined this driver $60,000 for going 14 mph over the limit

Unlike in the United States, where the flat fine is based on location and speed over the limit, Finland bases the penalty also as a percentage of daily income, according to the previous year’s tax return. Since Reima Kuisla earned over 6.5 million euros ($7 million) in 2013, he had a penalty equivalent to a brand-new BMW M3. The rationale is that the fine should sting for anyone, whether they’re scraping by or living in the lap of luxury. Unsurprisingly, Kuisla isn’t a fan of progressive penalties:

"Ten years ago I wouldn't have believed that I would seriously consider moving abroad. Finland is impossible to live in for certain kinds of people who have high incomes and wealth," said Kuisla on his Facebook page.
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Meanwhile, in America:

Teen Kills 4; Judge LITERALLY Lets Him Off Because He is Rich

Driving 3 times the legal limit. Drove into 4 people at 70 miles per hour, killing them all. Judge excused it because he was so wealthy he didn't understand consequences.

Stupid socialist freedom-hating Finland, punishing the wealthy criminals.
 
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zoo22 said:
Meanwhile, in America:

Teen Kills 4; Judge LITERALLY Lets Him Off Because He is Rich

Driving 3 times the legal limit.
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Drove into 4 people at 70 miles per hour, killing them all. Judge excused it because he was so wealthy he didn't understand consequences.
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you're assuming motivations to the judge that don't stand up

wiki said:
However, according to the New York Times, it is unclear if Couch's family's wealth played a part in his sentence. "t is not uncommon for minors involved in serious drunken-driving cases and other crimes to receive probation instead of prison time", and the sentence may be part of "a growing trend of giving a young person a second chance through rehabilitation instead of trying him as an adult".[3] Judge Boyd also has a prior history of attempting to place youths in rehabilitation rather than jail.[22]
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don't be such a gullible moron


here's a handy tip - if you're getting your stories from huffpo or kos, they're probably crap
 
The Barbarian

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The idea, I suppose, is everyone gets the same degree of punishment for the same offense.

So, for a given offense, you lose X percent of your daily pay. It would be fair, I suppose. But do you really think the rich in this country would ever allow it to happen?
 
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