Prison guards cook prisoner to death
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ClimateSanity
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[T] These charities deserve your support.
[+ to infinitive] The American people deserve to know what went wrong.
[T] I hope those crooks get what they deserve (= receive a punishment that suits their crime).
ClimateSanity
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They deserve praise for all their hard work.
The proposals that you have put forward deserve serious consideration.
A business as poorly managed as that one doesn't deserve to succeed.
You should treat those remarks with the contempt that they deserve.
He was a good strong leader, she said, who deserved his party's unreserved support.
The proposals that you have put forward deserve serious consideration.
A business as poorly managed as that one doesn't deserve to succeed.
You should treat those remarks with the contempt that they deserve.
He was a good strong leader, she said, who deserved his party's unreserved support.
1PeaceMaker
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Thanks. :e4e:
You just gave multiple examples of using the same word, with the same definition, implying a sense of justice.
Where is your example of the word deserve NOT implying a sense of justice?
Christian Liberty
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Res is being stupid because he really doesn't care about the concept of victimhood, or people at all really.
If someone walks outside in the middle of a hurricane and dies because of that we can feel bad for him but it is what it is. We can't really assert that injustice has been done.
On the other hand, if someone walks outside through a shady part of town and gets killed by thugs... sure maybe you shouldn't walk through that part of town but that doesn't change the fact that you're a victim.
There is no, simply no basis to say that this man "dserved" what happened to him. By any principle of justice he simply didn't.
Sad that after all this time there are still sickos on here. Even sadder is that even as a hardline theonomist that probably belongs in the year 1646
I still think the "left wing" non-Christian people here are more decent than half the people here that pretend to be Christian. Its still downright pathetic just as it always was.
If someone walks outside in the middle of a hurricane and dies because of that we can feel bad for him but it is what it is. We can't really assert that injustice has been done.
On the other hand, if someone walks outside through a shady part of town and gets killed by thugs... sure maybe you shouldn't walk through that part of town but that doesn't change the fact that you're a victim.
There is no, simply no basis to say that this man "dserved" what happened to him. By any principle of justice he simply didn't.
Sad that after all this time there are still sickos on here. Even sadder is that even as a hardline theonomist that probably belongs in the year 1646
I still think the "left wing" non-Christian people here are more decent than half the people here that pretend to be Christian. Its still downright pathetic just as it always was.
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
maybe i'm just stupid :idunno:
Christian Liberty
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At best
Res is being stupid because he really doesn't care about the concept of victimhood, or people at all really.
If someone walks outside in the middle of a hurricane and dies because of that we can feel bad for him but it is what it is. We can't really assert that injustice has been done.
On the other hand, if someone walks outside through a shady part of town and gets killed by thugs... sure maybe you shouldn't walk through that part of town but that doesn't change the fact that you're a victim.
There is no, simply no basis to say that this man "dserved" what happened to him. By any principle of justice he simply didn't.
Sad that after all this time there are still sickos on here. Even sadder is that even as a hardline theonomist that probably belongs in the year 1646
It's truly amazing the lengths some people will stoop to to defend these prison guards.
kiwimacahau
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What part of "mentally ill" did you not quite understand?
kiwimacahau
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Indeed.
zoo22
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"Amazing" ... Wait, that's how you spell "deranged"?
This Charming Manc
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On the limited info we have I think manslaughter charges would be more appropriate.
I believe then attended harm and rough justice, I see no evidence they intended to kill.
Still they need to go away for along time.
I believe then attended harm and rough justice, I see no evidence they intended to kill.
Still they need to go away for along time.
The thing is, a prisoner is a vulnerable person in relation to his/her guards. The guards have an obligation to perform their duties within the guidelines of their job description as well as common decency.
I always think "What if that prisoner were one of my loved ones"....
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
the part where the degree is not described
was his impairment sufficient to render him ignorant of the possible consequences?
it doesn't say
ok doser
lifeguard at the cement pond
i don't think anybody's defending them
do you?
it would be instructive to see how often this treatment had been used in the past, and how many prisoners who were subjected to it required medical attention afterwards
You have to wonder how many other inmates they have used forms of "rough justice" on and whether or not the higher ups were aware of their propensity towards abuse.
And now for some news that will send TOL's bleeding heart liberals running to Miami demanding justice!
Miami-Dade prison inmate death in shower ruled accidental, sources say
Jan. 22, 2016
Autopsy: Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease, ‘confinement’ in a shower
...The Miami-Dade Medical Examiner’s autopsy report, completed this week, concluded that Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease and “confinement” in the shower back in June 2012, according to multiple law enforcement sources.
Rainey, 50, did not suffer any burns anywhere on his body, and investigators could not conclude that the specially rigged shower was “excessively” hot the day he collapsed, the report said. Sources said the autopsy concluded that corrections officers had “no intent” to harm Rainey when they kept him in the shower for up to two hours.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/special-reports/florida-prisons/article56108525.html#storylink=cpy
What's the Medical Examiner know anyway?
I say Obama'sstorm troopers Dept. of Justice march into Miami and take control of this matter!
I'm sure that his cocaine habit had nothing to do with his bad health (including mental health), so I shouldn't even bring that up.
Ya know, if recreational drugs were legal....
Miami-Dade prison inmate death in shower ruled accidental, sources say
Jan. 22, 2016
Autopsy: Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease, ‘confinement’ in a shower
...The Miami-Dade Medical Examiner’s autopsy report, completed this week, concluded that Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease and “confinement” in the shower back in June 2012, according to multiple law enforcement sources.
Rainey, 50, did not suffer any burns anywhere on his body, and investigators could not conclude that the specially rigged shower was “excessively” hot the day he collapsed, the report said. Sources said the autopsy concluded that corrections officers had “no intent” to harm Rainey when they kept him in the shower for up to two hours.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/special-reports/florida-prisons/article56108525.html#storylink=cpy
What's the Medical Examiner know anyway?
I say Obama's
I'm sure that his cocaine habit had nothing to do with his bad health (including mental health), so I shouldn't even bring that up.
Ya know, if recreational drugs were legal....
Tinark
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And now for some news that will send TOL's bleeding heart liberals running to Miami demanding justice!
Miami-Dade prison inmate death in shower ruled accidental, sources say
Jan. 22, 2016
Autopsy: Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease, ‘confinement’ in a shower
...The Miami-Dade Medical Examiner’s autopsy report, completed this week, concluded that Rainey died from complications of schizophrenia, heart disease and “confinement” in the shower back in June 2012, according to multiple law enforcement sources.
Rainey, 50, did not suffer any burns anywhere on his body, and investigators could not conclude that the specially rigged shower was “excessively” hot the day he collapsed, the report said. Sources said the autopsy concluded that corrections officers had “no intent” to harm Rainey when they kept him in the shower for up to two hours.
Read more here: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/special-reports/florida-prisons/article56108525.html#storylink=cpy
What's the Medical Examiner know anyway?
I say Obama'sstorm troopersDept. of Justice march into Miami and take control of this matter!
I'm sure that his cocaine habit had nothing to do with his bad health (including mental health), so I shouldn't even bring that up.
Ya know, if recreational drugs were legal....
There is more reported in that article:
http://www.miamiherald.com/news/special-reports/florida-prisons/article56108525.html#storylink=cpy
So it may not have been as scalding hot as first reported, but still uncomfortably hot and the environment damaging enough after 2 hours of exposure to cause his skin to melt off, contributing to his death.
A manslaughter charge certainly seems to be in order, and the circumstances surrounding why it took 3 years for the non-independent investigation to finish remains unanswered.