Creationists admit "We are losing badly"

Jose Fly

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One of the few intelligent design blogs left is "Uncommon Descent". Recently, Sal Cordova--an ID creationist--was banned from the blog, which seems kinda odd since he's a fairly well-known creationist and ID apologist. But in banning him, his fellow creationists sent him a letter that explains he was banned for also participating in a non-ID creationist site. That letter states (in part)...

We are in a war. That is not a metaphor. We are fighting a war for the soul of Western Civilization, and we are losing, badly. In the summer of 2015 we find ourselves in a positon very similar to Great Britain’s position 75 years ago in the summer of 1940 - alone, demoralized, and besieged on all sides by a great darkness that constitutes an existential threat to freedom, justice and even rationality itself.
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I guess it's progress to see ID creationists finally coming around and recognizing the reality of the situation....ID creationism is dead, long since so. Millennials are accepting the reality of evolution in greater numbers, are leaving Christianity, and are citing the faith's anti-science attitude as among their reasons for leaving.

All good news. :up:
 
Quetzal

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Jose Fly said:
One of the few intelligent design blogs left is "Uncommon Descent". Recently, Sal Cordova--an ID creationist--was banned from the blog, which seems kinda odd since he's a fairly well-known creationist and ID apologist. But in banning him, his fellow creationists sent him a letter that explains he was banned for also participating in a non-ID creationist site. That letter states (in part)...



I guess it's progress to see ID creationists finally coming around and recognizing the reality of the situation....ID creationism is dead, long since so. Millennials are accepting the reality of evolution in greater numbers, are leaving Christianity, and are citing the faith's anti-science attitude as among their reasons for leaving.

All good news. :up:
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Another act that is costing them attendance is their perpetual need to create an us vs them mentality. This includes, but is not limited to, homosexuals, transgenders, ethnic minorities, competing religions, social groups that to not align with their views, political parties that do not align; etc.
 
Jose Fly

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Quetzal said:
Another act that is costing them attendance is their perpetual need to create an us vs them mentality. This includes, but is not limited to, homosexuals, transgenders, ethnic minorities, competing religions, social groups that to not align with their views, political parties that do not align; etc.
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One of the psychological traits of fundamentalists is a tendency to engage in black/white, either/or thinking. That's why they tell kids that it's either science or the Bible....if one's true, the other has to be false.

And a lot of kids are hearing that and saying "All right then...see ya!"
 
Quetzal

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Jose Fly said:
One of the psychological traits of fundamentalists is a tendency to engage in black/white, either/or thinking. That's why they tell kids that it's either science or the Bible....if one's true, the other has to be false.

And a lot of kids are hearing that and saying "All right then...see ya!"
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Ah, the ol' "believe what I do or else" tactic.

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Jose Fly said:
One of the few intelligent design blogs left is "Uncommon Descent". Recently, Sal Cordova--an ID creationist--was banned from the blog, which seems kinda odd since he's a fairly well-known creationist and ID apologist. But in banning him, his fellow creationists sent him a letter that explains he was banned for also participating in a non-ID creationist site. That letter states (in part)...



I guess it's progress to see ID creationists finally coming around and recognizing the reality of the situation....ID creationism is dead, long since so. Millennials are accepting the reality of evolution in greater numbers, are leaving Christianity, and are citing the faith's anti-science attitude as among their reasons for leaving.

All good news. :up:
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You can have all the unbelievers you want, the Bible tells us this will happen -

2 Timothy 3:1-2 KJV and 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
 
Selaphiel

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patrick jane said:
You can have all the unbelievers you want, the Bible tells us this will happen -

2 Timothy 3:1-2 KJV and 3, 4, 5, 6, 7
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None of these descriptions fit all the good scientists, at least not them as scientists. Plenty of believing scientists.

Bible has a lot to say about people who are deceitful and haters of truth, knowledge and wisdom though.

Creationism is a stain on Christianity. It is a form of Christianity that has ceased to be theology, that is thinking about God.

The warning of Augustine still holds:

"Usually, even a non-Christian knows something about the earth, the heavens and the other elements of this world, about the motions and orbits of the stars and even their sizes and relative positions… Now it is a disgraceful and dangerous thing for an unbeliever to hear a Christian, presumably giving the meaning of the Holy Scriptures, talking nonsense on these topics, and we should take all means to prevent such an embarrassing situation, in which people show up vast ignorance in a Christian and laugh it to scorn. "
 
Hedshaker

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Jose Fly said:
I guess it's progress to see ID creationists finally coming around and recognizing the reality of the situation....ID creationism is dead, long since so. Millennials are accepting the reality of evolution in greater numbers, are leaving Christianity, and are citing the faith's anti-science attitude as among their reasons for leaving.

All good news. :up:
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It comes down to an important part of an old adage: you cannot fool all of the people all of the time

They remind me of the proud boxer who cannot admit to being knocked out, but struggles to his feet by shear will power only to take another devastating blow.

They've had a good run but now is the time to admit defeat gracefully, else science will just knock them down again.
 
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Creationists admit "We are losing badly"

This is an argument over mechanics (creationism versus evolution) and time lines (6 days versus 4 billion years).

The bigger question that needs to be addressed is not how we got here, but what is our purpose - surely mankind exists for some purpose other than filling up space!

If you believe in a God inspired universe, the mechanics and timelines are largely academic.
 
Hedshaker

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jgarden said:
The bigger question that needs to be addressed is not how we got here, but what is our purpose - surely mankind exists for some purpose other than filling up space!
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Why? For what reason must there be a purpose other than what we ourselves assign individually?

What purpose does an elephant have? A Tiger, mouse, cockroach, orang-utan? The animal kingdom are here too so what must be their purpose?
 
CherubRam

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Jose Fly said:
One of the few intelligent design blogs left is "Uncommon Descent". Recently, Sal Cordova--an ID creationist--was banned from the blog, which seems kinda odd since he's a fairly well-known creationist and ID apologist. But in banning him, his fellow creationists sent him a letter that explains he was banned for also participating in a non-ID creationist site. That letter states (in part)...



I guess it's progress to see ID creationists finally coming around and recognizing the reality of the situation....ID creationism is dead, long since so. Millennials are accepting the reality of evolution in greater numbers, are leaving Christianity, and are citing the faith's anti-science attitude as among their reasons for leaving.

All good news. :up:
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Basically it is the same here. You guys hang out here to find anything you can to use against Christians. The only reason Christians are losing, is because they are not given the same opportunities by the government. Atheism is faith based.
 
Quetzal

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CherubRam said:
Basically it is the same here. You guys hang out here to find anything you can to use against Christians. The only reason Christians are losing, is because they are not given the same opportunities by the government. Atheism is faith based.
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Example?
 
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Young Earth Creationists, maybe.

Old Earth Creationists are pretty snug. We believe in an ancient universe and mass extinctions in which God renewed over repeatedly to cultivate the Earth.

Refute that :rolleyes:
 
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