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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Bryant is a senior VP for Wells Fargo with a background in software development and business, and he thinks he has debunked Relativity with a self-published book.
    Yep.

    Did you have something rational to contribute?

    Don't you think there is a reason he couldn't find a publisher, or any third-rate science journal, to accept his musings? In the book extracts I've seen, he discusses the Twin Paradox as if it is a Special Relativity issue without a solution, entirely unaware that the Twin Paradox is solved using General Relativity. Are we supposed to take this sort of uneducated crank serioiusly?
    You can respond however you like, once you've read the book. Or you can just ignore him and assume all is well with what you believe. Just don't pretend you've presented a serious case against his.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Yep.

    Did you have something rational to contribute?



    You can respond however you like, once you've read the book. Or you can just ignore him and assume all is well with what you believe. Just don't pretend you've presented a serious case against his.

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    Why don't you tell is what the most convincing part of the book is and we'll go from there, since you raised it. From the author's web site and the fawning book reviews from his crank web site friends I can't see anything of value. Enlighten me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Why don't you tell is what the mosr convincing party of the book is and well go from there, since you raised it. From the author's web site and the floating book reviews from his crank web site friends I can't see anything of value. Enlighten me.
    Why doesn't User Name explain himself instead of posting links?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Why doesn't User Name explain himself instead of posting links?

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    You haven't posted a link to the text of the book, so you can't complain. If you had I'd have something to read.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    You haven't posted a link to the text of the book, so you can't complain. If you had I'd have something to read.
    Oh, I'm the one complaining now?

    You're totally disinterested, aren't you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    How do you establish relativity? Have you even read Einstein's paper that claims to do so?


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    Yes, I have. In translation - I tried the German but my high-school German was not up to it. The special relativity paper is actually quite short and readable. And Einstein's paper didn't 'establish' relativity, but proposed it. Experiments established it, as is usual in Physics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Yes, I have. In translation - I tried the German but my high-school German was not up to it. The special relativity paper is actually quite short and readable. And Einstein's paper didn't 'establish' relativity, but proposed it. Experiments established it, as is usual in Physics.
    Your scientism is showing.

    Experiments don't establish theories, the best they can do is fail to falsify them.

    Relativity is a mathematical model. If it has not been established mathematically, it does not exist.

    Might pay to read the paper again to refresh your memory while you reconsider your approach to science.

    Here's an English version: http://einsteinpapers.press.princeto...vol2-trans/154


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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Don't you think there is a reason he couldn't find a publisher, or any third-rate science journal, to accept his musings? In the book extracts I've seen, he discusses the Twin Paradox as if it is a Special Relativity issue without a solution, entirely unaware that the Twin Paradox is solved using General Relativity. Are we supposed to take this sort of uneducated crank seriously?
    Yes, we are supposed to take uneducated cranks seriously. YECs love to play make-believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by User Name View Post
    We are supposed to take uneducated cranks seriously.
    Nope.

    Try comprehension.

    You are not required to pay any heed to anyone.

    In fact, it would be preferable if you would completely ignore me.

    However, to refute an idea, you have to engage rationally.

    Dismissing an idea because of who wrote it is irrational nonsense.

    Stupid, stupid Darwinists. They've been shown this numerous times, but without fail, they run to the genetic fallacy.

    I think they are fooled by the name.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Bryant is a senior VP for Wells Fargo with a background in software development and business, and he thinks he has debunked Relativity with a self-published book.
    Here's a video:

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    Here's a Web site: https://www.newscientist.com/round-u...ging-einstein/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Here's a Web site: https://www.newscientist.com/round-u...ging-einstein/

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    So you've found a site that repeats the widely accepted idea that GR will be replaced by a quantum theory of gravity that must reproduce the same predictions as relativity already does, given its experimental verification.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Your scientism is showing.

    Experiments don't establish theories, the best they can do is fail to falsify them.

    Relativity is a mathematical model. If it has not been established mathematically, it does not exist.

    Might pay to read the paper again to refresh your memory while you reconsider your approach to science.

    Here's an English version: http://einsteinpapers.press.princeto...vol2-trans/154


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    You are really quite wrong. What you could have correctly said was that experiments don't PROVE a theory true. It is certainly also true that successful experiments can change an hypothesis into an accepted, established, useful theory.

    Did you skip high school science lessons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    You are really quite wrong. What you could have correctly said was that experiments don't PROVE a theory true. It is certainly also true that successful experiments can change an hypothesis into an accepted, established, useful theory.Did you skip high school science lessons?
    Oh, right. High-school science.

    The issue you are avoiding is that relativity is a mathematical model. If it has not been established mathematically, it does not exist.

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