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    Quote Originally Posted by Jonahdog View Post
    This from a Walt Brown fan.
    Another Darwinist with nothing to contribute.

    A "test" of relativity does not establish it as reality and there is no "proof" of the idea.

    These things I say are presented as true. If you don't like them, present something rational to counter them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    Wow.
    This is like Bell's theorem type stuff right here, right? Where Bell's theorem distinguishes between Newtonian and quantum physics, mercury's melting point distinguishes between relativistic quantum and non-relativistic quantum, right?
    It is relativity that correctly predicts that because of their very high velocity, electrons actually become more massive, and this is what leads to, from the article...
    one of the most conspicuous examples of relativity
    Mercury being a liquid at room temperature is predicted only by relativity, and not by quantum by itself. Also, gold's color is predicted only by relativity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    Mercury being a liquid at room temperature is predicted only by relativity, and not by quantum by itself. Also, gold's color is predicted only by relativity.
    Nope.

    And we would be justified in rejecting your assertion even without knowing of an alternative theory.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Nope.

    And we would be justified in rejecting your assertion even without knowing of an alternative theory.

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    Surely you should know how the word 'predict' is used in science to refer to a derivation from theory that can be tested (refuted or supported) by observation or experiment.

    Do you ever do anything other than play silly word games? Try engaging constructively with the discussion for once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    Mercury being a liquid at room temperature is predicted only by relativity, and not by quantum by itself. Also, gold's color is predicted only by relativity.
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    Nope.
    Yup.
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    And we would be justified in rejecting your assertion even without knowing of an alternative theory.
    Whatever that means.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilo View Post
    Yup.
    Whatever that means.
    I usually have Stripe on ignore as he is just a troll. He has never knowingly contributed anything positive to a science based thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    I usually have Stripe on ignore as he is just a troll. He has never knowingly contributed anything positive to a science based thread.
    I'm still pretty impressed that when relativistic effects of the mass of electrons is taken into consideration, that the color of gold, and melt point of mercury is accurately predicted.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    Surely you should know how the word 'predict' is used in science to refer to a derivation from theory that can be tested (refuted or supported) by observation or experiment.
    We know you're desperate to avoid the relevant challenges you've been issued, so we might be willing to engage on side issues while you prepare something sensible to contribute.

    However, your side issues are nonsense.

    How about you read what I said again and try something rational in response, because this rubbish is nothing but a sad attempt to assert your primacy.

    Do you ever do anything other than play silly games?
    The central claim he made although he left off the "therefore" was that relativity alone could predict the behavior of mercury.

    This is patently false, even without knowing another idea that could provide such a prediction.

    Your attempt to mock my understanding of a word shows that you spent no time trying to comprehend me, just as you spent no time attempting a rational response to the request to establish relativity, or even name Einstein's paper that claimed to do so.

    Try engaging constructively with the discussion for once.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gcthomas View Post
    I usually have Stripe on ignore as he is just a troll.




    He has never knowingly contributed anything positive to a science based thread.


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