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For Jews in Jesus' day a twenty-four hour day began at sundown.
The first day of Passover began on Thursday and Jesus died on the afternoon of the 14th.
Luke says, "That day was the Preparation and the Sabbath drew near." (Luke 23:54 NKJV)
The term "drew near" is translated from epiphosko which is translated dawn in Matthew 28:1.
Since Jesus was entombed as the Thursday Sabbath began then one day later would be as Friday began. The beginning of Saturday began at sundown and was the second day. The beginning of Sunday began at sundown and was the third day.
Jesus fulfilled the wave sheaf offering by presenting himself to the Father on the day after the weekly Sabbath, which was Sunday morning.
Yes, that's right.
Yes, it was the 14th, the day on which the Passover lambs were killed and the homes were cleansed of leaven.
No way. Jesus instructed His disciples to go into the city and prepare(hetoimazo) the Passover so that He could eat it with them that night after sundown which would be the beginning of the 15th.
Yes, he does and in that verse the word is Paraskeue which is the day before the weekly Sabbath.
Yep.
That's all mumbo-jumbo because you've already missed the day sequence in your first statement, because the text plainly says that on the first day when the lambs must be killed(the 14th), the Lord Jesus instructed His disciples to prepare(hetoimazo) for the Passover meal which He would eat with them that night after sundown which begins the 15th.
No argument.
Did Jesus die on the preparation day?
How long does it take to prepare bread and wine?
You do realize don't you that Jesus is the High Priest of the Melchizedek order, not the Aaronic order.
The Melchizedek order observes the NT Passover of bread and wine which was ordained by the Father through Jesus.
For as often as you eat this bread and drink this cup, you proclaim the Lord’s death till He comes. (1 Corinthians 11:26 NKJV)
Yes, on the 'paraskeue'.
But, not on the day that His disciples were preparing(hetoimazo) for Him to eat the Passover meal with them.
What did they eat for Passover and what did his disciples eat the next year on Passover?
Did they continue to sacrifice animals?
They likely bought the bread and wine which someone else had already prepared for people to eat the Passover meal.
I agree that the Lord Jesus is a priest forever after the order of Melchizedek.
Do you think this Melchizedek Order is something along the lines of "The Order of the Mystic Knights of the Sea"?
Yep.
But, how's this connected to the subject of which day the Lord was crucified, or are you just deliberately changing the subject?
I'm trying to understand what you are saying. Where in scripture is paraskeue defined as the sixth day of the week?
So you're saying Jesus observed the Passover established through Moses? This means that Jesus would have died on the Sabbath which is contrary to scripture. Why do you say your nonscriptural definition of paraskeue overrides scripture?
Mar 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation[paraskeue], that is, the day before the sabbath,
Yes.
No. He died on the Preparation/paraskeue, that is, the day before the Sabbath.
The definition comes directly from Scripture.
So how did Jesus die on the preparation day and eat the Passover that night?
Which Sabbath? The Jews today observe Shavout on Sivan 6 which is fifty days from Nisan 16, which is always the day after a Sabbath.
Normally there are three Sabbaths during Passover week.
He didn't.
It plainly says that He ate the Passover the night before.
The Lord Jesus instructed His disciples to make preparations[hetoimazo] for the Passover meal on the day that the lambs were killed, which is undeniably the 14th.
He ate the Passover at the same time that all Israel did at the beginning of the 15th, which is after the sundown of the 14th.
He was crucified the next morning, still the 15th and died that afternoon of the 15th which was the preparation[paraskeue] for the Sabbath.
Which Sabbath?
The answer is 'the Sabbath', the same Sabbath mentioned here and a hundred other places:
Mat_12:1 At that time Jesus went on the sabbath day through the corn; and his disciples were an hungred, and began to pluck the ears of corn, and to eat.
Mar 15:42
Mark was making it a point to inform his readers what the term 'paraskeue' means. If he meant any other sabbath than the seventh day Sabbath, he would have said so. To leave his explanation without further explaining that he meant a sabbath other than the weekly Sabbath would defeat his whole purpose in explaining what he meant by the term 'paraskeue'.
If Mark didn't mean that 'paraskeue' refers to the seventh day Sabbath, he should have either said so or just left vs 14:52 out and not addressed the question at all, because all that he has succeeded in doing is leaving it up to the reader to guess which sabbath they think he is talking about. It defeats his purpose of explaining what 'the preparation/paraskeue' means.
Your take on this makes absolutely no sense.
Mar 15:42 And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation[paraskeue], that is, the day before the sabbath,
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According to John 18:28 and John 19:14, Christ ate his lamb a night ahead
of the Jews.
Apparently the official religious calendar was off that year; but Christ, being
a prophet in intimate contact with God, was privy to exactly when.
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According to John 18:28 and John 19:14, Christ ate his lamb a night ahead
of the Jews.
Apparently the official religious calendar was off that year; but Christ, being
a prophet in intimate contact with God, was privy to exactly when.
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The word "sabbath" does not always pertain to the routine sabbath. There
are also special sabbaths, sometimes referred to as consecrated days; e.g.
Yom Kippur, Feast of Trumpets, and at the beginning and the end of the
Feast of Unleavened Bread.
FYI: The beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread coincides with the night
of the Passover lamb; which of course makes lamb night a consecrated
night; viz: a sabbath night. (Ex 12:16)
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The word "sabbath" does not always pertain to the routine sabbath. There
are also special sabbaths, sometimes referred to as consecrated days; e.g.
Yom Kippur, Feast of Trumpets, and at the beginning and the end of the
Feast of Unleavened Bread.
FYI: The beginning of the Feast of Unleavened Bread coincides with the night
of the Passover lamb; which of course makes lamb night a consecrated
night; viz: a sabbath night. (Ex 12:16)
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Do you realize Nisan 15 is a Sabbath, a holy assembly?
They departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day of the first month, on the day after the Passover the children of Israel went out with boldness in the sight of all the Egyptians. (Numbers 33:3 NKJV)
The 15th departure was on the morning after the Passover meal the previous evening.
So this day shall be to you a memorial and you shall keep it as a feast to the LORD throughout your generations. You shall keep it as a feast by an everlasting ordinance.
Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses. For whoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel.
On the first day there shall be a holy convocation and on the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation for you. No manner of work shall be done on them, but that which everyone must eat—that only may be prepared by you. (Exodus 12:14-16 NKJV)
Seven days you shall eat unleavened bread. On the first day you shall remove leaven from your houses. For whoever eats leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that person shall be cut off from Israel.
On the first day there shall be a holy convocation and on the seventh day there shall be a holy convocation for you. No manner of work shall be done on them, but that which everyone must eat—that only may be prepared by you. (Exodus 12:14-16 NKJV)
Mark was a Jewish Christian writing to other Jewish Christians familiar with God's law through Moses. There was no explanation needed since adherents to Moses law had observed Passover for many centuries.
It is the law that defines the first day of Passover as a Sabbath.
The NT is written from a Jewish perspective and that is the way it must be understood.
Joh 18:28 Then led they Jesus from Caiaphas unto the hall of judgment: and it was early; and they themselves went not into the judgment hall, lest they should be defiled; but that they might eat the passover.
Are you absolutely certain that this refers to the Passover meal which takes place at the beginning of the 15th after sunset of the 14th?
The Lord Jesus clearly told His disciples, on the day that the Passover lambs are killed which has to be the 14th according to law, to go into the city and make preparations so that He could eat the Passover with them. This they did, according to the law, on the beginning of the 15th, which is after the sunset of the 14th.
Jews had to be ceremonially pure in order to participate in the Chagiagah which takes place on the 15th of the Passover week long feast. This is what is being referred to in John 18:28, or else John contradicts the other three gospel timelines.
No...it wasn't. The Lord obeyed the law.
If one doesn't understand John's peculiar use of the terms 'passover' and 'the preparation' then one is left in confusion and desperation as to how to reconcile John's account with the other three. As a result, they make stuff up and force fit it into the narrative.