JudgeRightly (January 4th, 2018),Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
And what is worse than ignorance, is that he is willing to dissemble and misrepresent to protect his belief in his infallibility.
I'm not an expert on creationism, but I am an expert on physics
I guess that's why you're so unwilling to discuss it.
It's a pity you run for the hills every time the discussion heads toward evidence. You much prefer it when the subject is a person's supposed characteristics.When he insists that ... OP ... is true despite evidence to the contrary, then he loses my respect.
You're just a troll. You've no interest in a rational discussion.It would be much more fun if some of the honest creationists came out to play.
Where is the evidence for a global flood?
E≈mc2 When the world is a monster
Bad to swallow you whole
Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
Throw your trolls out the door
"The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
-Bob B.
JudgeRightly (January 4th, 2018),Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
Grow up Stripe. It would really be great if you or @Clete ever did allow the discussion to head for evidence - that's exactly what Clete has been refusing to do. You certainly won't consider evidence, which is why you will ONLY offer emojis and ad homs. When was the last time you actually engaged with the topic? You couldn't clearly define what you meant by time either, nor understand that the OP, in picking Earth's day/night cycle as the basis for time, was assuming a uniform, linear, absolute, Newtonian time that was always going to be a problem when trying to do a thought experiment about relativity.
I explained this to you before (evidence, you see) but you responded by trolling the thread. Nothing constructive at all from you. All you've got to offer are emojis and insults and dismissals. I'm the one trying to discuss the details and logic of the OP.
Maybe I'm wrong about you. Perhaps you would want to discuss time as described in the OP and how that influences the thought experiment. Perhaps you don't. Will see.
We wunt be druv.
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You seem to be describing the Doppler Effect here, not relativity. Are you sure you've got the right history here?
When he was 16, Einstein did write about what you'd see if you rode along on a beam of light, but he was talking about the prpblems with describing the interactions of the electric and magnetic fields of the light wave, not the clock (this was long before relativity, or even before Einstein had read Maxwell's theory). If you are referring to the Stopped Clock Paradox, then that is a rather different thing, and refers to the stopping of clock and the idea of simultaneity (I 'discussed' this at some length with Stripe in 2014 in this thread, I think, but he didn't understand the issues at all.)
We wunt be druv.
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With pleasure!
Relativity is founded upon the idea that light always travels at the same speed regardless of the reference frame of observers.
What is Einstein's proof for this called?
You certainly won't consider evidence, which is why you will ONLY offer emojis and ad homs.
Two sentences ago.When was the last time you actually engaged with the topic?
Time is the distance between events.You couldn't clearly define what you meant by time.
1. I don't use that as the basis for time. Time is the distance between events.Nor understand that the OP, in picking Earth's day/night cycle as the basis for time, was assuming a uniform, linear, absolute, Newtonian time that was always going to be a problem when trying to do a thought experiment about relativity.
2. We're trying to discuss a world without relativity. Your demand that we bow to the theory eliminates the possibility of a discussion.
And we know your only objective in being at TOL is for laughs.
I explained this to you before (evidence, you see) but you responded by trolling the thread. Nothing constructive at all from you. All you've got to offer are emojis and insults and dismissals. I'm the one trying to discuss the details and logic of the OP.
And maybe you'll get over yourself.Maybe I'm wrong about you. Perhaps you would want to discuss time as described in the OP and how that influences the thought experiment. Perhaps you don't. Will see.![]()
Where is the evidence for a global flood?
E≈mc2 When the world is a monster
Bad to swallow you whole
Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
Throw your trolls out the door
"The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
-Bob B.
JudgeRightly (January 4th, 2018),Tambora (January 11th, 2018),Yorzhik (August 22nd, 2018)
When arguing against the theory of relativity, it is necessary to use non-relativity concepts to describe things.
The sooner you begin to respect this concept in general terms, the sooner you can start contributing to a discussion.
Sounds like you're referring to conversations you wish had happened.If you are referring to the Stopped Clock Paradox, then that is a rather different thing, and refers to the stopping of clock and the idea of simultaneity (I 'discussed' this at some length with Stripe in 2014 in this thread, I think, but he didn't understand the issues at all.)
Where is the evidence for a global flood?
E≈mc2 When the world is a monster
Bad to swallow you whole
Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
Throw your trolls out the door
"The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
-Bob B.
We need a tumbleweed smiley.![]()
Where is the evidence for a global flood?
E≈mc2 When the world is a monster
Bad to swallow you whole
Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
Throw your trolls out the door
"The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
-Bob B.
JudgeRightly (January 10th, 2018),Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
Dunno. I got four squares on my phone.![]()
Where is the evidence for a global flood?
E≈mc2 When the world is a monster
Bad to swallow you whole
Kick the clay that holds the teeth in
Throw your trolls out the door
"The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
-Bob B.
Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
Tambora (January 11th, 2018)
We don't tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters exist.
They already know monsters exist.
We tell our children fairy tales so that they will know that monsters can be killed.
Clete (March 22nd, 2018),JudgeRightly (January 11th, 2018),Stripe (January 11th, 2018)
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)
Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)
Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
Ricky: "You also know how to be stupid."
We wunt be druv.
Self appointed representative of the reality based community. [Send complaints to /dev/null.]
Is quantum physics in its entirety the Standard Model, or is the Standard Model quantum physics in its entirety, plus something else? IOW, is the Standard Model equal to quantum physics in its entirety, or does the Standard Model just consist of quantum physics in its entirety, plus something else?
THE LORD JESUS CHRIST IS RISEN. Matthew 28:6 (KJV) Mark 16:6 (KJV) Luke 24:6 (KJV)
Romans 10:9 (KJV) 1st Corinthians 15:14 (KJV)
Trevor: "I know how to drive, man."
Ricky: "You also know how to be stupid."
I love the one entitled "Relativity: How people get time dilation wrong", which is all about how we haven't gotten wrong at all!
Motion effects clocks!
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"The [open view] is an attempt to provide a more Biblically faithful, rationally coherent, and practically satisfying account of God and the divine-human relationship..." - Dr. John Sanders
JudgeRightly (March 22nd, 2018)
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