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    Quote Originally Posted by Chileice
    Has everyone already made up their minds who will win? I thought the last debate was going to be interesting, but everyone went into with their minds already made up so it didn't matter what anyone said. Everyone thought their view was the winner. I wonder if there will be any more objectivity this time around.
    Actually, I knew Turbo would win the last debate, but that didn't really change my opinion on the subject.

    ps. Although I agreed with Theo's position, I was dissapointed that he was such a bad loser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zadok
    Questions I would like to have answered =

    1. In the Book of Revelation there are 8 passages of Scripture mentioning the "overcomers" of the Lord. Why are ONLY overcomers mentioned as not being "hurt" by the Lake of Pur?

    2. If only overcomers are not hurt by the second death/ a.k.a. the Lake of Fire, are the vast majority of the house of God subject to the Lake?

    3.What does hurt/ ajdikevw in the Koine mean?

    4. How does the Lake differ from our God the Consuming Fire?

    5. Where & when did the Lake originate?

    Good questions Zadok.

    I would like to see them questions answered too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyann
    Good questions Zadok.

    I would like to see them questions answered too.
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    I have been astonished that men could die martyrs for their religion -
    I have shudder'd at it.
    I shudder no more.
    I could be martyr'd for my religion
    Love is my religion
    And I could die for that.
    I could die for you.
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    Logos and I are both looking forward to this Battle Royale. It should be exciting!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorKevin
    Logos and I are both looking forward to this Battle Royale. It should be exciting!
    Yep everyone get the popcorn ready.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Real Sorceror
    Good luck, Logos_X!
    No pressure, but our eternal fate is in your hands.
    LOL, I guess LogosX will have an unexpected cheering section in this debate.


    I'm with PK in my understanding so far, but I expect to learn from the debate. I haven't studied the topic much for myself. Looking forward to it.
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    I'm really looking forward to this debate.

    Thanks Logos and PK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorKevin
    Logos and I are both looking forward to this Battle Royale. It should be exciting!

    Indeed!

    And, no doubt, many will watch this debate rooting for their own position and with their minds already made up.
    They will not be open to new ideas, nor the logic behind them, no matter how scriptural the arguments.

    But, hey....it's going to be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by logos_x
    Indeed!

    And, no doubt, many will watch this debate rooting for their own position and with their minds already made up.
    They will not be open to new ideas, nor the logic behind them, no matter how scriptural the arguments.

    But, hey....it's going to be fun!

    I could try to imagine a vengeful sadistic god compelling billions of individuals to eternal
    torture.

    Trying ... trying ... nah, ain't gonna happen. But I'll enjoy the debate nonetheless.

    Go Logos!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    I could try to imagine a vengeful sadistic god compelling billions of individuals to eternal
    torture.

    Trying ... trying ... nah, ain't gonna happen. But I'll enjoy the debate nonetheless.

    Go Logos!
    i guess thats my take as well, should be fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave Miller
    I could try to imagine a vengeful sadistic god compelling billions of individuals to eternal
    torture.

    Trying ... trying ... nah, ain't gonna happen. But I'll enjoy the debate nonetheless.

    Go Logos!
    I am so glad God is Love (love does no harm) and not a Sadistic monster. I couldn't love a god that was going to torture billions of people in a fiery pit for eternity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyann
    I am so glad God is Love (love does no harm) and not a Sadistic monster. I couldn't love a god that was going to torture billions of people in a fiery pit for eternity.
    It is possible to believe the Bible teaches unbelievers will be in the Lake of Fire for all eternity and not believe that God is a sadistic monster. I for one do not believe that God is a sadistic monster and neither do any of the Christians I know who hold to the orthodox position of unbelievers being eternally separated from God in the Lake of Fire. There are many Christians on this very website who believe the Lake of Fire is eternal and I would venture to say none of them believe that God is a sadistic monster. And we love God with all of our hearts and lives as the Scriptures say we should. So it is possible to believe the Biblical doctrine of the Lake of Fire and still love the Lord.

    Have a good day!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kimberlyann
    I am so glad God is Love (love does no harm) and not a Sadistic monster.
    You are right, God is not sadistic, which is why He doesn't force people to be with Him for eternity when they do not wish to do so.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PastorKevin
    It is possible to believe the Bible teaches unbelievers will be in the Lake of Fire for all eternity and not believe that God is a sadistic monster. I for one do not believe that God is a sadistic monster and neither do any of the Christians I know who hold to the orthodox position of unbelievers being eternally separated from God in the Lake of Fire. There are many Christians on this very website who believe the Lake of Fire is eternal and I would venture to say none of them believe that God is a sadistic monster. And we love God with all of our hearts and lives as the Scriptures say we should. So it is possible to believe the Biblical doctrine of the Lake of Fire and still love the Lord.

    Have a good day!
    Sure, as long as your god is on your side and the suffering of others doesn't
    matter, its all good!
    1 John 4:7-8 "Beloved, let us love one another, because love is from God; everyone who loves is born of God and knows God. Whoever does not love does not know God, for God is love."

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    Do you ever get the feeling that sometimes the heavenly host just look down at us, see us arguing and debating trivia and say, "They are such morons," ?

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