Quetzal
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I don't hold assault and rape on a level playing field.
Dozer's Fixation on Rape!
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ok doser
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You know your life has reached rockbottom when you are searching google images for "bad Transvestite" just to make a lame joke.
ok doser
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a topic for another thread
if women want equality, why should rape be viewed as a different kind of assault?
IF someone is drugged or in a condition of black out, they cannot consent. It is always rape.
IF you are unclear of what happened, you would have good reason to concern yourself over rape.
Quetzal
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You are using very extreme, specific comparisons to make a point that would apply to everyone. Sorry, I do not give weight to that.
ok doser
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it's part of the feminist movement of empowering women without making them as responsible for their behavior
kinda like no fault divorce
glorydaz
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I'm only rewording what you said. Don't you see it? :think:
Quetzal
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It has nothing to do with women because men are raped, too. I do not think I need to explain why being raped is more harmful than getting punched in the face.
ok doser
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....avoid using broad strokes
the broad strokes version is this:
everybody - whether criminal or victim - is responsible for their behavior
Quetzal
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Clever, didn't catch it the first time.
glorydaz
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There ya go. And to think I started out a big fan of Gloria Steinem. We came a long way, baby.
Thankfully, some of us got off the pendulum swing before it went too far.
genuineoriginal
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Many people believe that when a drunk man and a drunk woman have drunken consensual sex, the woman was raped and the man is a rapist.
That is clear evidence that our society has abandoned common sense.
Quetzal
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You need to take my entire statement into account. You cannot use one specific, outlier and apply that outlier to everyone. That is my point.
ok doser
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no, i think you do
explain how this:
| Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”: “They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’” Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped. |
is more harmful than this:
Yes, in my case I knew and I didn't make much of a fuss, my mind was clear enough to stop the progression, but I didn't. Only my MIND was saying no
Quetzal
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Well, let's see. One is a sport (boxing) and the other is rape. There is no commentary needed in regards to why rape is more harmful here.no, i think you do
explain how this:
Herewith, a Philadelphia magazine report about Swarthmore College, where in 2013 a student “was in her room with a guy with whom she’d been hooking up for three months”:
“They’d now decided — mutually, she thought — just to be friends. When he ended up falling asleep on her bed, she changed into pajamas and climbed in next to him. Soon, he was putting his arm around her and taking off her clothes. ‘I basically said, “No, I don’t want to have sex with you.” And then he said, “OK, that’s fine” and stopped. . . . And then he started again a few minutes later, taking off my panties, taking off his boxers. I just kind of laid there and didn’t do anything — I had already said no. I was just tired and wanted to go to bed. I let him finish. I pulled my panties back on and went to sleep.’”
Six weeks later, the woman reported that she had been raped.
is more harmful than this:
ok doser
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if your behavior wasn't contributory to the criminal actions taken against you, then you bear no responsibility
i believe this point has been made before
ok doser
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Quetzal
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No one willingly contributes to criminal actions against themselves.
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