You keep repeating the same dud argument and I will keep correcting you, the man and the woman are both humankind. The Father and the Son are both God.
You say the wife cannot be the husband but the bible says they become one flesh...they are the same class of being...so are the Father and the Son.
I keep repeating the argument because you are failing to grasp your mistake and I am hoping you will understand your mistake if you keep running into it.
Your argument is that two beings are only one being because they are the same class of being.
That is why you keep trying to argue that a wife is the husband.
The opposite is true concerning Pharoah and Joseph when compared to the Son and the Father. Pharoah elevated Joseph to the place of rule over Egypt.
With Christ He was equal with God and shared His glory but humbled Himself to take on the form of a servant.
You seem to be twisting the words of the verses to say the opposite of what they are saying.
Let's look at the verses:
Philippians 2:5-7
5 Let this mind be in you, which was also in Christ Jesus:
6 Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God:
7 But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: |
Careful readers notice that the verse does not say Jesus started out equal with God, but it does say that Jesus did not think it would be stealing to be like God.
Paul, the Old Testament scholar, is making a comparison with a famous passage in the Old Testament where someone tried to be like God.
Isaiah 14:12-14
12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!
13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. |
Instead of having the mind of Lucifer and trying to steal the throne of God, Jesus chose to humble Himself instead.
The point Paul is getting at is that we are not to have the mind of Lucifer and try to raise ourselves up, but to have the mind of Jesus and humble ourselves and let God raise us up.
Philippians 2:9
9 Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: |
The bible says equal with God, the bible says one with the Father, the bible says He was with God and He was God.
Handle it.
Here is the problem: the Bible does not say what you claim it says.
The Bible does not say Jesus is equal with God, it says, "thought it not robbery to be equal with God".
The Bible does not just say one with the Father, the Bible says Jesus prayed, "they may be one, even as we are one".
The Bible does not say Jesus was with God and Jesus was God, the Bible says, "the Logos was with God, and the Logos was God"
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Logos (UK /ˈloʊɡɒs/, /ˈlɒɡɒs/, or US /ˈloʊɡoʊs/; Greek: λόγος, from λέγω lego "I say") is an important term in philosophy, psychology, rhetoric, and religion. Originally a word meaning "a ground", "a plea", "an opinion", "an expectation", "word", "speech", "account", "to reason" it became a technical term in philosophy, beginning with Heraclitus (ca. 535–475 BC), who used the term for a principle of order and knowledge.
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God's expectation, opinion, and reasoning was with God from the beginning and is a fundamental part of who God is.
The passage then goes on to say Jesus is the embodiment of God's expectation, opinion, and reasoning.
The passage does not say Jesus is the embodiment of God Himself, only the embodiment of God's Logos.
You worship the Father? how do you do that? you do not know His form...
We are to worship the Father in the manner shown by Jesus, Paul, Peter, and John.
Knowing God's form is unimportant. The pagans were concerned with the form of their gods and make statues to represent them. Our God said not to make any statue to represent Him.
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In the year 63 BCE, the Roman general Gnaeus Pompeius Magnus, in the process of conquering Israel and all the surrounding territories, entered the most sacred place in the Jewish temple in Jerusalem. What he found shocked him. For this temple was different in one crucial respect from all other temples.
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you throw your hands in the air and do a Russian knee dance do you? "look at me I'm worshipping the Father"
Could you provide the chapter and verse for this, I can't find it in my Bible anywhere.
I did find this passage about how to worship God:
John 4:20-23
20 Our fathers worshipped in this mountain; and ye say, that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship.
21 Jesus saith unto her, Woman, believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain, nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the Father.
22 Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews.
23 But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. |
