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    I wondered if we could get some idea as to when the next battle will begin. I didn't know if maybe this being a bad time of year it was going to be put off until the begining of next year.
    If I do a BR with asi66, which may or may not happen depending the decision of higher powers (although I really want it to), it could not begin until January 10 or so because I would not be in town till then.

    But the delay would be just long enough for the suspense to mount and mount . . . .
    No one ever just picked up the Bible, started reading, and then came to the conclusion that God was not doing signs and wonders anymore and that the gifts of the Holy Spirit had passed away. The doctrine of cessationism did not originate in a careful study of the Scriptures. The doctrine of cessationism originated in experience. -Jack Deere

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    Hello ais88 and God bless-
    If there are any questions regarding anything, I'll be glad to answer them.
    Thanks for the response. What do you believe concerning Christ's pre-existence [being you lean toward CDism]? Secondly, what books have you read along the lines of 'anti-Trinitarianism'? Greg Stafford, Anthony Buzzard, etc...

    God bless--Jeremiah

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    I don't see Jesus having any antenatal existence any more than I do (compare John 17:5 with 1 Timothy 1:9 and Revelations 13:8). Such preexistence is in the mind and will of God.

    I have read Buzzard and Hunting's "The Doctrine of the Trinity, Christianity's Self-Inflicted Wound." I have also read some of Buzzard's essays. I find some of his arguments weak while others I feel are quite strong. (I'd give it a four out of five)

    Most of the extra-biblical reading I have done on the Trinity was written by Trinitarians. Remember that my initial goal was to defend the doctrine (I was raised southern baptist). A great deal of these writers' arguments are fallacious or have too many holes in them (Robert Morey and Robert Sumner come to mind).

    Essentially, my objective has been to seek the honest truth. I have no axe to grind. I have compared the Trinity with Scripture and I simply don't see it. As Paul wrote:

    1 Thessalonians 5:20-21: Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

    Thanks for writing,
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    I'm just curious, how many people actually read the Battle Royales all the way through without skimming?

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    I have.

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    I'd like to throw my hat into the ring for a BR. I tend to go for stuff dealing with the Attributes of God, e.g.:

    1. Supralapsarian vs. Arminian or OV views of the decrees (restricted to it relation to God's character)

    Although I could venture in General Theology on:

    -Is the Law a unity vs Civil, Moral and Cultic (Arguing for the unity of the Law)

    -Is the Law applicable to Christians? (For the affirmative, if correctly understood). This is one I would rather like to argue for.
    "Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my Gospel." (2 Tim. 2:8)

    "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Romans 8:1)

    "You a luney," GP to anyone who gets too dogmatic on eschatology.

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    I'd still like to have a knock-down drag-out over OSAS vs. NOSAS, with myself being on the NOSAS side.
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    I will take on Jaltus as long as he agrees to no broccolli!
    "Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my Gospel." (2 Tim. 2:8)

    "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Romans 8:1)

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    GP,

    Haven't we done this before?

    Besides, I would love to see you trounce someone in a law battle. For that matter, I am not up for a BR in quite some time, since I already had one. I just want to keep my name around, not that I would mind redoing our old rivalry.
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    True. This is one battle we have been having for nigh on three years, and it is the one thing that gets our blood boiling towards each other! Besidees Jaltus refuses to abstain from Broccoloi

    So I rescend my earlier agreement
    "Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my Gospel." (2 Tim. 2:8)

    "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Romans 8:1)

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    Consistency is still not your strong point.

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    Broccoloi

    You even had it right!
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    "A foolish consistency is the hobgoblin of a simple mind"
    "Remember Jesus Christ, raised from the dead, descended from David. This is my Gospel." (2 Tim. 2:8)

    "There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus." (Romans 8:1)

    "You a luney," GP to anyone who gets too dogmatic on eschatology.

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    I can't believe that as of yet there have been no BRs on:

    Is God outside of Time?
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    I'd love to do the God and Time issue, but it tends to be way too technical for a BR.
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    Hell, I'll prove God changes.

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