Millions of Muslims fleeing to Christians nations

chair · Sep 7, 2015

bybee said:
I label them as potential terrorists. We never know who will turn against us and slaughter us in our streets, homes, schools, marketplaces and hospitals.
America has not been reluctant to accept refugees. We are a nation of refugees.
But, Chair, resources are finite. The ability to assimilate large masses of people is finite. We may very well destroy ourselves in the process.

I admit to mixed feeling on this topic.

Much of Europe is already suffering from problems with immigrants. The low birth rate in many countries also contributes. The US historically has been able to absorb immigrants fairly well, but it may be a question of how big and fast an influx is. Absorption can take a generation or two.

On the other hand, these people are fleeing from a terrible situation. And they are not all terrorists, despite what some here pretend.

The West is paying the price for letting things in Iraq and Syria get to this point. Not to mention much of Africa.

CherubRam · Sep 7, 2015

chair said:
I admit to mixed feeling on this topic.

Much of Europe is already suffering from problems with immigrants. The low birth rate in many countries also contributes. The US historically has been able to absorb immigrants fairly well, but it may be a question of how big and fast an influx is. Absorption can take a generation or two.

On the other hand, these people are fleeing from a terrible situation. And they are not all terrorists, despite what some here pretend.

The West is paying the price for letting things in Iraq and Syria get to this point. Not to mention much of Africa.

So you think it is Americas fault!

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

CherubRam said:
"Our" or "We" is Christians or white race. And so, what are you doing?

Disappearing!

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

chair said:
I The low birth rate in many countries also contributes. .

The low birthrate is from selfish intent, and shall be their undoing. It is the primary reason for the migrant influx.

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

bybee said:
I label them as potential terrorists. We may very well destroy ourselves in the process.

They are, yet do not meed to act so. They wait a few decades and all of Europe will be theirs, as the old European population shall have destroyed itself from within.

The few remaining Europe's, with all there self debasing and lack of pride will surly allow themselves to be marginalized. All the Arabs have to do is what they are doing.

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

bybee said:
Islam is a religion of conquest, convert or die. That is their history and it has not changed.
"Let's all be nice shall we?"

Imagine how far the homos would get theirs in that society? One must be logically consistent, these people may not know God, however, they practice what they preach.

"Let's all be nice shall we?" is defeatist

bybee · Sep 7, 2015

chair said:
I admit to mixed feeling on this topic.

Much of Europe is already suffering from problems with immigrants. The low birth rate in many countries also contributes. The US historically has been able to absorb immigrants fairly well, but it may be a question of how big and fast an influx is. Absorption can take a generation or two.

On the other hand, these people are fleeing from a terrible situation. And they are not all terrorists, despite what some here pretend.

The West is paying the price for letting things in Iraq and Syria get to this point. Not to mention much of Africa.

Apparently America is to be blamed for all the ills of this world? Damned if we do and damned if we don't!
The terrible situation from which these folks are fleeing is in Islamic Theocracies! They then get to other non-Muslim countries and demand to have their religious necessities become the law of the land.
They are dangerous.

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

CherubRam said:
Hate crimes are on the rise in America. The birth rate is down for white people, and the birth rate is up for non-whites. Education scores have dropped.

Many white supremacists hate Jews and Catholics as much as they hate people of color.

Brockton, Massachusetts, January 21, 2009: Keith Luke, an unaffiliated white supremacist, kills two Cape Verdean immigrants.

Two members of the Aryan Terror Brigade white supremacist group were sentenced to prison today for their roles in the New Year’s Eve 2011 assault hate crime.

Oak Creek, Wisconsin, August 5, 2012: White supremacist Wade Michael Page allegedly opens fire in a Sikh temple, killing six and wounding four.

Gilbert, Arizona, May 3, 2012: White supremacist and anti-immigration extremist J.T. Ready shoots and kills four people.

Aug 07, 2013. Two White supremacists sentenced for hate crime. Crime not stated.

This is where your mind goes. almost by instinct! Self blame and guilt and hatred for your own kind, which is actually a phony sense of moral superiority.

There is only one way to teach you, and that is for them to do, you will not listen to any other.

Ktoyou · Sep 7, 2015

lovemeorhateme said:
No. There are plenty of other safe countries in the Middle East, including the wealthy Arab nations who are sitting idly by and doing nothing. Perhaps they should open their borders for a change? There are already an increasing number of Islamic ghettos in the UK, and I for one don't wish to see more of them spring up. The UK is a breeding ground for fundamentalists and terrorists, many of who get exported back out to the Middle East to wreak ever more death and destruction. I'm all for helping genuine refugees as much as possible, but surely there must be other solutions than simply opening the borders to migrants who have illegally passed through ten safe countries to come here.

They do not want to live in a country ruled by men. Since they have to leave home, they would rather live in a country where they are more likely to be feared, rather than in fear. Europe is in the grip of existential fear and they know it.

Interplanner · Sep 7, 2015

If those Euro countries don't demand a legally binding commitment to pluralism from the immigrants, they are fools.

annabenedetti · Sep 7, 2015

Islamophobic, anti-Semitic hate crimes soar in London

Fiyaz Mughal, from Tell Mama, an organisation with monitors Islamophobic incidents, said around 60 percent of victims of such offences are women wearing a hijab or headscarf.
"We also realised quite early on that women who wear niqab, the face veil, suffered more aggressive incidents -- there was something about the face veil that in a way brought out the worst in the perpetrator," he told the BBC.

ok doser · Sep 7, 2015

why shouldn't they expect a reaction if they insist on going around dressed for halloween?

bybee · Sep 7, 2015

annabenedetti said:
Islamophobic, anti-Semitic hate crimes soar in London

Fiyaz Mughal, from Tell Mama, an organisation with monitors Islamophobic incidents, said around 60 percent of victims of such offences are women wearing a hijab or headscarf.
"We also realised quite early on that women who wear niqab, the face veil, suffered more aggressive incidents -- there was something about the face veil that in a way brought out the worst in the perpetrator," he told the BBC.

There is another side to this coin. Dozens of hate crimes perpetrated by Muslims on non-Muslim females who are not attired as the Muslims think proper.

ok doser · Sep 7, 2015

sorry anna, but if you want to go around dressed like a terrorist, expect some pushback

lovemeorhateme · Sep 7, 2015

annabenedetti said:
Islamophobic, anti-Semitic hate crimes soar in London

Fiyaz Mughal, from Tell Mama, an organisation with monitors Islamophobic incidents, said around 60 percent of victims of such offences are women wearing a hijab or headscarf.
"We also realised quite early on that women who wear niqab, the face veil, suffered more aggressive incidents -- there was something about the face veil that in a way brought out the worst in the perpetrator," he told the BBC.

I'd be willing to place a bet that the majority of anti-Semitic hate crimes were perpetrated by Muslims. I've seen the anti-Semitic protests in London, and they are always chock full of Muslims and militant socialists.

lovemeorhateme · Sep 7, 2015

ok doser said:
sorry anna, but if you want to go around dressed like a terrorist, expect some pushback

France banned the burqa in public, and I wish that Britain would follow suit.

ok doser · Sep 7, 2015

they're constantly struggling with it in canada, especially quebec

there, they have the english sensibilities butting heads with the french sensibilities

it's a lot of fun to watch :banana:

chair · Sep 7, 2015

bybee said:
Apparently America is to be blamed for all the ills of this world? ...

Not at all. America (I said the West- but Americans think that is only them) is not "to blame". Far from it. But that doesn't mean one can walk away from problems either. Sometimes it is better to deal with things earlier, rather then say "it's not my problem" then deal with the fallout later.

bybee · Sep 7, 2015

chair said:
Not at all. America (I said the West- but Americans think that is only them) is not "to blame". Far from it. But that doesn't mean one can walk away from problems either. Sometimes it is better to deal with things earlier, rather then say "it's not my problem" then deal with the fallout later.

That was a snotty, judgmental thing to say.

chair · Sep 7, 2015

bybee said:
That was a snotty, judgmental thing to say.

Perhaps it is OK to be judgmental sometimes. Or should we all be really polite and politically correct, and not say what we think?

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