Moon Landing Hoax
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What was Calvin actually meaning, then, when he referred to Plato losing "himself in his round globe?"
Opponents of geocentrism claim two things refute geocentrism.
1) geostationary satellites
2) Fulcrum Pendulum
The "Allais effect", if correct, actually validates geocentrism when it comes to pendulums.
From Wikepedia:
"The Allais effect refers to the anomalous behavior of pendulums or gravimeters, which is sometimes observed during a solar eclipse."
1) geostationary satellites
2) Fulcrum Pendulum
The "Allais effect", if correct, actually validates geocentrism when it comes to pendulums.
From Wikepedia:
"The Allais effect refers to the anomalous behavior of pendulums or gravimeters, which is sometimes observed during a solar eclipse."
From the point of view of an observer on Earth, how could such a person tell the difference between the stopping in its orbit of Earth or the Earth adjusting its spin such that the same side of the planet was facing the sun as the Earth continued in its orbit.
Putin
says its a hoax. :idunno:
According to heliocentrism, the earth spins approximately 1,000 mph.
Heliocentrism also says the earth revolves around the sun at 18.5 miles a second. Which is in the neighborhood of 65,000 mph.
So, if the earth either stopped spinning, or stopped orbiting, don't you think everything on it would go flying through the air?
If the Sun, and all the other stars in the heavens, are orbiting Earth, then the sun would be traveling at similar speeds. What do you think would happen if the sun, and the rest of the heavens, just suddenly stopped moving.
On a side note, do you understand how gravity works?
Nimrod
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Putinsays its a hoax. :idunno:
Those Darn Russians.
Here is new scientific analysis of the hoax from someone in Ukraine.
http://www.aulis.com/stereoparallax.htm
Well, it doesn't say the rest of the heavens stopped also, it says just the sun stopped.
Since there's no one on the sun, I'm not sure what would happen
Yes, if you throw something up in the air, it comes back down.
Comes back down to what?
Does it make a difference where on Earth I throw the ball up? Will it come back down if I am on the North Pole? What about the South Pole? What about the equator?
Daniel1611
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Just because the sun moves doesn't mean the stars move.
We observe that they do move. That is why the constellations change throughout the year.
Daniel1611
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Yes, but they don't necessarily move like the sun does. The stars appear to move very little.
It comes back down to earth.
Yes.
If the earth spins, then the Coriolis Effect is different at the poles than the equator. There's virtually no Coriolis Effect at the equator.
So of the three places listed, north pole, south pole and equator, where does the ball not come back down to Earth?
Okay, which one of these CAN'T God do:
Heliocentric Model: God safely stops the Earth from rotating.
Geocentric Model: God stops he sun from moving?
And this still needs an answer: From the point of view of an observer on Earth, how could such a person tell the difference between the stopping in its orbit of Earth or the Earth adjusting its spin such that the same side of the planet was facing the sun as the Earth continued in its orbit.
Daniel1611
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How can the observer tell that the earth is moving at all?
I didn't say it doesn't come back down to earth.
If you were standing on the equator, and I'm standing in Pennsylvania, and you throw a ball to me, the ball will end up to the left of me (your right) because you are moving faster than I am (if the earth spins) and I didn't catch up to you.
If you were standing on the North Pole, and I'm in Pennsylvania, and you throw a ball to me, it will again end up to the left of me because now I'm moving faster than you are (if the earth spins) and I have moved ahead of you.
If planet earth is standing still, and space is moving, the same exact effect would take place.
That is rather the point. AN observer on Earth could not tell the difference between the Earth stopping and the sun stopping. Thus, when scripture says the sun stopped for three days, there is not enough information there to tell us whether God stopped the sun or the Earth. So I wonder why one must insist on one model or the other based on religious principles?