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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    What wacky translation are you using?

    Clearly you are misreading the context....

    Romans 2:1 Therefore you are inexcusable, O man, whoever you are who judge, for in whatever you judge another you condemn yourself; for you who judge practice the same things. 2 But we know that the judgment of God is according to truth against those who practice such things. 3 And do you think this, O man, you who judge those practicing such things, and doing the same, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you despise the riches of His goodness, forbearance, and longsuffering, not knowing that the goodness of God leads you to repentance?

    The verse is stating that God's goodness is what points men towards what is right and what is wrong. This verse has nothing to do with God acting "kind" towards wicked sinners.
    See, this is what i'm talking about, you guys cant even agree on what bible to use.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    See, this is what i'm talking about, you guys cant even agree on what bible to use.
    So what?

    Do you agree with every Pagan?

    And no, that question isn't rhetorical.
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    The KJV is the best because it was the first time the book was translated into english (unless I'm mistaken). The verbage is closest to the way it was originally intended.

    I read your Atheist agreeability argument but it seems silly because all us Christians agree on the one same point "atheists are wrong."

    So what now Napolean?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    athiests dont need to agree on every thing, just that your wrong. Hope that I made that clear enough, if not let me know, I'll work on it some more.
    I think your dogma just ran over your karma.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    So what?

    Do you agree with every Pagan?

    And no, that question isn't rhetorical.
    No, and I did point that out before that we all dont agree. My point is that its the devine word of your god, why wouldnt there be just one version, that every one can study? One text that every one can draw off of and get the same information. Why not? The Muslims have one book, the Jews have one book, the Mormans have their book, why not just have one translation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    I think your dogma just ran over your karma.
    Serious question, whats with the giant rat avatar? I've been racking my brain trying to figure it out. i'm not being sarcastic at all here, I just want to know whats up with the rat?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    Serious question, whats with the giant rat avatar? I've been racking my brain trying to figure it out. i'm not being sarcastic at all here, I just want to know whats up with the rat?
    That's rat fink and rat fink likes halloween.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    Serious question, whats with the giant rat avatar? I've been racking my brain trying to figure it out. i'm not being sarcastic at all here, I just want to know whats up with the rat?
    I imagine it's part of a Halloween theme.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    No, and I did point that out before that we all dont agree. My point is that its the devine word of your god, why wouldnt there be just one version, that every one can study? One text that every one can draw off of and get the same information. Why not? The Muslims have one book, the Jews have one book, the Mormans have their book, why not just have one translation?
    Uh dude... are you kidding?

    You may not agree with me on things but you may want to know the facts a bit better.

    There is only one Holy Bible.

    The Koran and the Book of Mormon are not part of the Bible.
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    Love the sinner hate the sin.

    The only way to do this is to hate the sin a person lives in. You are effectively hating the person out of your love for him/her.

    Love the sinner [by] hat[ing] [his/her willingness to live in] sin.

    I'm curious how the "love is not hate" side of this argument thinks we should deal with murderers, rapists and the like. If we know our neighbor is a homosexual freak who seduces and eats 13 year old boys should we walk over with a freshly baked pie and discuss his sin? "Oh Jeffery, thats not right. Please stop eating the neighborhood children, my son has no one left to play with..."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    That's rat fink and rat fink likes halloween.
    Cool, sorry to derail the topic a little bit, but I was just wondering. I can dig it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    Cool, sorry to derail the topic a little bit, but I was just wondering. I can dig it.
    Do a web search on Rat Fink and you will see he has a "hip" and extensive history.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    Uh dude... are you kidding?

    You may not agree with me on things but you may want to know the facts a bit better.

    There is only one Holy Bible.

    The Koran and the Book of Mormon are not part of the Bible.
    I'm not sayng that they are. My point was that these religions that are comproble in size to christianity, and have similar pull, all have one book with one translation. And while there is one book with the name Holy Bible on it, you guys cant agree on which one should be used. You have some who say use NKJ, or NIV, or countless other versions. My point is this, why not just have one single translation of the book its self.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knight
    Do a web search on Rat Fink and you will see he has a "hip" and extensive history.
    I'll do that when I get home. But seriously, it just kind of struck me as odd. But like I said, I can dig it. But then again, I'm a 20 year old guy who idolizes Superman, so, I dont think I'm one to talk about odd or weird.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    I'm a 20 year old guy who idolizes Superman, so, I dont think I'm one to talk about odd or weird.
    Superman is gay.



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