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    Hate (in and of itself) is morally neutral.

    There are righteous forms of hatred and there are unrighteous forms of hatred.

    Righteous hatred...
    Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.

    Unrighteous hatred...
    Leviticus 19:17 You shall not hate your brother in your heart. You shall surely rebuke your neighbor, and not bear sin because of him.
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    No, it is not "Christian" to hate anyone.

    Second, it is bad for one's mental state to hate anyone.

    Third, hate is hard work and not worth the effort.

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    Can you separate a sinner from his sin?
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    We are no longer bound by sin, but are free from it because of Jesus. However we still live sinful lives, because we are still of this world, and still are tempted by the flesh and by Satan.

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    Bill? Or the Bible?

    Bill says...
    Quote Originally Posted by billwald
    No, it is not "Christian" to hate anyone.
    The Bible says...
    Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.

    Romans 12:9 Let love be without hypocrisy. Abhor what is evil. Cling to what is good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TobiasKage
    Listen dude, I was a christian for the majority of my life, I know all about it, all I'm saying is, for a christian to say that they dont hate any one, espetialy people on this site, is totaly bogus. Just read through the posts on the "Coming Out Holiday", from my personal experiance christians hate a whole lot of people. Gays, Muslims, people who dont agree with them. I'm not trying to pick a fight, people hate, I hate this dude for very good reasons.
    Those reasons are the darkness that you refuse to acknowledge has you enshrouded. I have plenty of people I could hate, including queers and murderers, were I not obedient to The Lord, Who said we were to love our enemies. Mocking someone, opposing their point of view or even calling them a sinner isn't hatred, but looking the other way and ignoring sin is. I don't hate anyone, in spite of your tainted view of me. I hate a lot of things a lot of people do, but hating someone's sin isn't equal to hating the person who is sinning. Sinners are merely doing what they're supposed to, sinning. You can't fault them for that, merely attempt to get the truth across to them about the consequences, the eternal ones that is.
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    Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.
    Jesus said love your enemies. What are you going to do?
    “There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.” - Daniel Dennett

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    Many choose to disobey Him. As for me and my house, we will follow The Lord.
    "That man of sin must first be revealed." -- Jesus

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    No, it is not OK to hate anyone. There is no room in the Bible for me to hate someone. Hate is nothing but destructive. It is a highly destructive emotion.


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    Hatred of a person is different to hatred of something that person is doing.


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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme
    Hatred of a person is different to hatred of something that person is doing.
    Can they really be separated?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aimiel
    Those reasons are the darkness that you refuse to acknowledge has you enshrouded. I have plenty of people I could hate, including queers and murderers, were I not obedient to The Lord, Who said we were to love our enemies. Mocking someone, opposing their point of view or even calling them a sinner isn't hatred, but looking the other way and ignoring sin is. I don't hate anyone, in spite of your tainted view of me. I hate a lot of things a lot of people do, but hating someone's sin isn't equal to hating the person who is sinning. Sinners are merely doing what they're supposed to, sinning. You can't fault them for that, merely attempt to get the truth across to them about the consequences, the eternal ones that is.
    Its very conveniant for christians to be able to say, no I really dont hate you, its just your sin I hate. The realization I've come to since I havent been a christian is that, the rest of the world doesnt see that distinction because they dont see a problem with the "sin", they just see hate, thats it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ShadowMaid
    Can they really be separated?
    Yes. Have you ever had a relative that does something that you know is destroying them? You come to have a rabid hate for the particular sin, but your love for that person remains stronger than ever.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovemeorhateme
    There is no room in the Bible for me to hate someone.
    Psalms 139:22 I hate them with perfect hatred; I count them my enemies.

    What do you suppose "perfect hatred" means?
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    I'm not a Christian, but personally I don't hate anyone. That's not a moral stance... I just can't do it. I can manage an intense dislike for a while, and I can maintain a "preference not to have in my life", but anything stronger than that just doesn't stick. Eventually it all fades into one of the options above.

    *shrug*

    I've tried for years to figure out why this is, because I think my life would be easier if I could hate people. Others seem to gain such satisfaction and reassurance out of it. And I'm certainly not without people in my life who "deserve" to be hated. But all of them... my rapist, my abuser, that chick next door who always wakes me up in the early morning... just stop seeming important enough for me to maintain such a strong emotive charge against. I guess I just feel I have more important things to worry about.

    Apologies... I know this is a deviation from the topic. But it's something that I think about a lot, and... well, I guess I'm wondering if anyone has any input.

    But feel free not to leave it here. Back to your on-topic type discussions.
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