THE HOUSEHOLD OF GOD

DougE

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1 Kings 5:17 And the king commanded, and they brought great stones, costly stones, and hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.

Solomon determined to build the house of God and laid the foundation.

Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Jesus was declared to be the sure foundation and the precious corner stone.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

The household of God consists of the house built from the believing remnant of Israel and the body of Christ.

2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The household of God for the remnant of Israel was built upon the foundation of the apostles (Peter and the disciples) and the prophets in the old testament.

The household of God for the body of Christ was built upon the apostles (Paul and the apostles such as Barnabas as seen from Acts 14:14) and the prophets in the old testament that spoke of Christ.

Christ is the corner stone of each house.

Peter built Israel to reconcile the earth and Paul built the body of Christ to reconcile the heavens.

2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Both the house of Israel and the house of the body of Christ are built for a habitation of God.
 

beloved57

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1 Kings 5:17 And the king commanded, and they brought great stones, costly stones, and hewed stones, to lay the foundation of the house.

Solomon determined to build the house of God and laid the foundation.

Isaiah 28:16 Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste.

Jesus was declared to be the sure foundation and the precious corner stone.

Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;

The household of God consists of the house built from the believing remnant of Israel and the body of Christ.

2:20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;

The household of God for the remnant of Israel was built upon the foundation of the apostles (Peter and the disciples) and the prophets in the old testament.

The household of God for the body of Christ was built upon the apostles (Paul and the apostles such as Barnabas as seen from Acts 14:14) and the prophets in the old testament that spoke of Christ.

Christ is the corner stone of each house.

Peter built Israel to reconcile the earth and Paul built the body of Christ to reconcile the heavens.

2:21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:

2:22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

Both the house of Israel and the house of the body of Christ are built for a habitation of God.

Theres only One Household of God, the Church, the Body of Christ consisting of believing jews and gentiles or consisting of a remnant out of the jews and a remnant out of the gentiles !
 

Right Divider

Body part
The "household of God" is presently TWO entities that WILL be made one in the FUTURE.

Eph 1:9-10 KJV Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself: (10) That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

The "theology" of the "Calvinist's" here on TOL is baloney.
 

DAN P

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Exactly Brother !

Hi and B57 quoted Eph 1:10 and your quote is wrong , WHY ?

You left out one word , and here it is , with a view to DISPENSATION of the FULNESS OF TIMES , to head up THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA which translators left out the Greek word TA / THE !!

This then means not " ALL THINGS / PANTA but THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA " IN CHRIST "

ALL THINGS / PANTA would mean all things in heaven and in earth !!

THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA only means BELIEVERS that are " in CHRIST "

The Greek word TA / THE then specific people that are " in CHRIST " ONLY !!

I have a book that documents why the THE is important in the bible !!

dan p
 

beloved57

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Hi and B57 quoted Eph 1:10 and your quote is wrong , WHY ?

You left out one word , and here it is , with a view to DISPENSATION of the FULNESS OF TIMES , to head up THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA which translators left out the Greek word TA / THE !!

This then means not " ALL THINGS / PANTA but THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA " IN CHRIST "

ALL THINGS / PANTA would mean all things in heaven and in earth !!

THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA only means BELIEVERS that are " in CHRIST "

The Greek word TA / THE then specific people that are " in CHRIST " ONLY !!

I have a book that documents why the THE is important in the bible !!

dan p

All believers are in Christ. Moses is Paul is. The Ot Church is and the NT Church is
 

Right Divider

Body part
All believers are in Christ. Moses is Paul is. The Ot Church is and the NT Church is

Indeed the are, but they were NOT given the SAME dispensations of God.

You try to FORCE your "interpretation" on the scripture instead of letting scripture speak for itself.
 

Right Divider

Body part
They still one family and body with Christ as Head, His Body the Church

They are all WITHIN the household of God... that does not make THEM identical.

Peter NEVER refers to Christ as his head... Christ is his King... the King of Israel.
Peter NEVER refers to himself as a member of the body of Christ.
Peter will sit on one the the TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of Israel.

Your failure to rightly divide the word of truth has you extremely confused.
 

DAN P

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All believers are in Christ. Moses is Paul is. The Ot Church is and the NT Church is

Hi B57 and IF Moses is in the B O C and Heb 11:28 that THROUGH FAITH he ( MOSES ) KEPT THE PASSOVER , how was Moses saved SINCE MOSES WAS KEEPING THE PASSOVER and keeping the LAW ??

You are mixing LAW and GRACE together !!

dan p
 

Right Divider

Body part
Hi B57 and IF Moses is in the B O C and Heb 11:28 that THROUGH FAITH he ( MOSES ) KEPT THE PASSOVER , how was Moses saved SINCE MOSES WAS KEEPING THE PASSOVER and keeping the LAW ??

You are mixing LAW and GRACE together !!

dan p

Indeed... not rightly dividing is the primary problem in the Christian world.
 

beloved57

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Hi B57 and IF Moses is in the B O C and Heb 11:28 that THROUGH FAITH he ( MOSES ) KEPT THE PASSOVER , how was Moses saved SINCE MOSES WAS KEEPING THE PASSOVER and keeping the LAW ??

You are mixing LAW and GRACE together !!

dan p

Moses was saved like anyone else by the Grace of God through Jesus Christ !
 

beloved57

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They are all WITHIN the household of God... that does not make THEM identical.

Peter NEVER refers to Christ as his head... Christ is his King... the King of Israel.
Peter NEVER refers to himself as a member of the body of Christ.
Peter will sit on one the the TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of Israel.

Your failure to rightly divide the word of truth has you extremely confused.

They still one family and body with Christ as Head, His Body the Church
 

DAN P

Well-known member
That the household of God is two entities is nowhere in scripture. A man made teaching.

Hi B 57 , and by the above , you say there is only ONE ENTITIE , so what are that ONE ENTITIE called , IS-A - GEN ?

And here I found that there is one SPIRITUAL HOUSE in 1 Peter 2:5 , V9 a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD , so how did you come to be a PRIEST ??

dan p
 

beloved57

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Hi B 57 , and by the above , you say there is only ONE ENTITIE , so what are that ONE ENTITIE called , IS-A - GEN ?

And here I found that there is one SPIRITUAL HOUSE in 1 Peter 2:5 , V9 a ROYAL PRIESTHOOD , so how did you come to be a PRIEST ??

dan p

There is One Household of God, or Household of Faith
 
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