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intojoy

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IMJerusha said:
2 Corinthians 8:9 "For you know the grace of our Lord Jesus Christ, that though he was rich, yet for your sake he became poor, so that you through his poverty might become rich."

Glad we're on the right track in your estimation. :wave:
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So meshak's husband is a JW who is addicted to porn.
This in her mind the lack of genuine change in his life means that the JWs were not strict enough on him, they had to much grace in their doctrine and that's why he is a hypocrite.

The truth of course is that the JW do not have any grace at all really, their salvation is based in works.

The reason why meshak's husband is a sex addict is because he has never humbled himself to believe the gospel.

These are my guesses based on her behavior and reactive hyper anti grace positions. It could be possible as well that mr meshak could have become a Christian too. But we will never truly know because meshak is not capable of describing what a Christian is.

Mainstreamin' demon livin' is as close as she defines it but she includes JWs in that thus there is no set standard with her.
 
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intojoy said:
So meshak's husband is a JW who is addicted to porn.
This in her mind the lack of genuine change in his life means that the JWs were not strict enough on him, they had to much grace in their doctrine and that's why he is a hypocrite.

The truth of course is that the JW do not have any grace at all really, their salvation is based in works.

The reason why meshak's husband is a sex addict is because he has never humbled himself to believe the gospel.

These are my guesses based on her behavior and reactive hyper anti grace positions. It could be possible as well that mr meshak could have become a Christian too. But we will never truly know because meshak is not capable of describing what a Christian is.

Mainstreamin' demon livin' is as close as she defines it but she includes JWs in that thus there is no set standard with her.
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It is safe to say that if you're a mainstreamer in her eyes you're probably in good shape. Maybe.

If you are not saved and you want to be saved or if you think you're saved and not sure but want to know that you're saved just let me know, I'm here to represent God in Messiah's Name.
 
IMJerusha

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intojoy said:
So meshak's husband is a JW who is addicted to porn.
This in her mind the lack of genuine change in his life means that the JWs were not strict enough on him, they had to much grace in their doctrine and that's why he is a hypocrite.

The truth of course is that the JW do not have any grace at all really, their salvation is based in works.

The reason why meshak's husband is a sex addict is because he has never humbled himself to believe the gospel.

These are my guesses based on her behavior and reactive hyper anti grace positions. It could be possible as well that mr meshak could have become a Christian too. But we will never truly know because meshak is not capable of describing what a Christian is.

Mainstreamin' demon livin' is as close as she defines it but she includes JWs in that thus there is no set standard with her.
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And what are your sins or the sins of your family? Are we to look to others sins or to our own?

Is it more important to be able to describe what a Christian is or to live like a Christian?
 
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IMJerusha said:
And what are your sins or the sins of your family? Are we to look to others sins or to our own?



Is it more important to be able to describe what a Christian is or to live like a Christian?
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Let's see...I'm a homo, dumb a, a hater, womanizer, partier, ...does it make a diff?

I'm not a homo but the best description one can give for a womanizer is a homo because the actions are equally wrong just not as obvious due to the unnatural act of homo livin.

I'm not looking down -u are!
At me.

U look down on me for criticizing doctrine, you're being a hypocrite MJ

Don't worry, we all are
 
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intojoy said:
Let's see...I'm a homo, dumb a, a hater, womanizer, partier, ...does it make a diff?

I'm not a homo but the best description one can give for a womanizer is a homo because the actions are equally wrong just not as obvious due to the unnatural act of homo livin.

I'm not looking down -u are!
At me.

U look down on me for criticizing doctrine, you're being a hypocrite MJ

Don't worry, we all are
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Observation can occur on the same plane. I don't need to be below you or above you nor do I consider myself to be. My questions were rhetorical but you got my point. :)
 
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IMJerusha said:
Observation can occur on the same plane. I don't need to be below you or above you nor do I consider myself to be. My questions were rhetorical but you got my point. :)
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Let me answer your second Q

Is it more important to live like a Christian or to explain what a Christian is?

It is more important to explain what one is than to live like one.
 
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intojoy said:
Let me answer your second Q

Is it more important to live like a Christian or to explain what a Christian is?

It is more important to explain what one is than to live like one.
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I would agree!
Since all have sin, then observing sin in a person is not the determining factor of a Christian.
 
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Tambora said:
I would agree!
Since all have sin, then observing sin in a person is not the determining factor of a Christian.
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In order to live as a Christian one must become one and in order to become one you have to be able to describe what becoming a Christian requires and MJ, it requires sound doctrine!
 
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intojoy said:
In order to live as a Christian one must become one and in order to become one you have to be able to describe what becoming a Christian requires and MJ, it requires sound doctrine!
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Yeshua said "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me." In other words, Yeshua saves, not doctrine. That's the only sound doctrine any of us can recommend. And what good the Scripture of 1 Corinthians 13 or Yeshua's own words as found in Matthew 7:21 if it's more important to know what a Christian is rather than live as one? Clearly, Yeshua stated in Matthew 7:21 that folks who not only know what Christianity is but also know how to use His name will not be in Heaven enjoying a relationship with He and the Father.
 
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IMJerusha said:
Agreed, so perhaps you should think before you post?... and I do not mean that unkindly. The Ruach is not an accuser of the Body so we should not do that.
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Like I said, you are enabler of wicked deeds.

You are sharing the same guilt when you do that.
 
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meshak said:
Like I said, you are enabler of wicked deeds.

You are sharing the same guilt when you do that.
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Explain why it is low of Intojoy to accuse your husband falsely but not low of you to accuse me falsely? That's quite a double standard you are carrying. So when you state "You are sharing the same guilt when you do that." I have to say ditto.
 
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IMJerusha said:
Explain why it is low of Intojoy to accuse your husband falsely but not low of you to accuse me falsely? That's quite a double standard you are carrying. So when you state "You are sharing the same guilt when you do that." I have to say ditto.
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Because what he said is clearly lie. My husband is not JW. He made this up.

How you make accusation of me is not clear. It is up to God to judge if your judging me correctly or you are enabler of wicked deeds.

Here is what Jesus says about judging:
John 7:24
New International Version (NIV)
24 Stop judging by mere appearances, but instead judge correctly.”
 
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