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    Post REPORT: TOL Statement of faith

    There is one God, the Father, the Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all that is, seen and unseen.

    There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.

    Through Him all things were made. For us and for our salvation He came down from heaven: by the Holy Spirit He became incarnate from the Virgin Mary, and was made man.

    For our sake He was crucified under Pontius Pilate; He suffered death and was buried.

    On the third day He rose again in accordance with the Scriptures; He ascended into heaven and is seated at the right hand of the Father.
    He will come again in glory.

    With His saints He will judge the living and the dead. And His kingdom will have no end.

    There is one Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of life, who proceeds from the Father. With the Father and the Son He is worshipped.

    He has spoken through the prophets and through the Scriptures.
    God established the Body of Christ into which the Holy Spirit baptizes every new believer.

    God offers salvation by grace through faith alone in the resurrected Christ.
    The Bible records the true history of man including that God created the heavens and the earth and everything in them in six literal days; only eight people survived a global flood; through great wonders God delivered Israel from Egypt; the prophets, Christ, and the apostles performed many miraculous deeds.

    The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, in their original state, are the inspired Word of God. God legislated morality out of love for His creation.
    Men who reject God will suffer eternal damnation.

    Christ commands His followers to rebuke and to judge with righteous judgment and to forgive those who repent. One day God will resurrect the dead, punish the unbelievers, and reward those whom He has justified with the life of the world to come.
    Amen.
    - Open rebuke is better Than love carefully concealed. - Proverbs 27:5

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    This is the first time I have read through the staement. Thanks for posting it. I don't agree with it 100% particularly as it gets to the end but it is well written and succinct as a statement of faith should be.

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    There is one Lord, Jesus Christ, the only Son of God, eternally begotten of the Father, true God from true God, begotten, not made, of one Being with the Father.
    As freak would put it very God of very GOd

    I don't agree with it 100% particularly as it gets to the end
    I have read it 3 times now and mind you I will be checking periodically to find something I don't agree with since it isn't showing up now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yxboom View Post
    As freak would put it very God of very GOd


    I have read it 3 times now and mind you I will be checking periodically to find something I don't agree with since it isn't showing up now.
    it says faith alone ...scripture says faith alone is dead...
    James 2:17
    Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.

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    Goose,

    Do you know if this is the statement of faith of Denver Bible Church as well?

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    bump...because yx deserves an answer.

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    Re: Goose,

    Originally posted by Yxboom
    Do you know if this is the statement of faith of Denver Bible Church as well?
    yes... it is.
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    DBC is sweet no doubt

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    I don't like having "in the space of six literal days" in it. Not saying I don't agree...
    "Servetus has just sent me a long volume of his ravings. If I consent he will come here, but I will not give my word for if he comes here, if my authority is worth anything, I will never permit him to depart alive ("Si venerit, modo valeat mea autoritas, vivum exire nunquam patiar").[3]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Calvinist
    I don't like having "in the space of six literal days" in it. Not saying I don't agree...
    How was it six literal days if the sun wasn't created until the 3rd "day"?
    Did God have a watch?
    "If you will think of ourselves as coming out of the earth,
    rather than having been thrown in here from somewhere else,
    you see that we are the earth,
    we are the consciousness of the earth.
    These are the eyes of the Earth.
    And this is the voice of the earth."

    Joseph Campbell

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    Quote Originally Posted by beanieboy
    How was it six literal days if the sun wasn't created until the 3rd "day"?
    Did God have a watch?
    God experienced succession, duration, sequence from all eternity. The MEASURE of earthly time for US relates to the sun and moon. Technically, hours pass even before creation. The first, second, and third 24 hour period (same Hebrew word used in Exodus for days relating to Sabbath keeping) had creation activity. Just because the sun was created later, does not mean the first days were not 24 hours. The measure of time can be done in various ways. It does not have to be by the sun. Chronology and sequence happened, with or without the sun. After the sun and man were created, then at some point we formalized our measure of preexisting time. God is not timeless, but exeriences and endless duration of time.
    Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

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    Originally posted by Yxboom
    DBC is sweet no doubt
    Indeed.
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    You mean no clarification on God's exhaustive foreknowledge?

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