turbosixx
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I may have not made my point well enough, consistency within a passage (context) and harmony with the rest of scripture.
Jesus spoke in the four gospels, how do you view the other books?
ECT why don't you say the Our Father?
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I may have not made my point well enough, consistency within a passage (context) and harmony with the rest of scripture.
Jesus spoke in the four gospels, how do you view the other books?
turbosixx
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Amen.
Like I said, I go along with Jesus' word written in the Gospels throughout the Bible, both OT and NT.
I ignore everything if what is written does not harmonize with God and Jesus' love.
I call it contextual reading or reasoning.
Cruciform
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Your claim that the teachings of that one historic Church founded by Jesus Christ himself (Mt. 16:18)---whose teachings He equated with his very own in truth and authority (Lk. 10:16)---are "destroying lives" is noted.
Gaudium de veritate,
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God's Truth
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The Church is the body of Christ. The body of Christ are the true worshipers. Jesus is what the gates of Hell will not overcome.
Jesus is God's Truth.
God's Truth
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Jesus, after dying on the cross went to Hell/prison. The gates of Hell could not overcome Jesus. Jesus is the Truth, the Life, and the Way.
Cruciform
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According to Jesus himself, He would build His Church (Mt. 16:18)---that is, his hierarchically-structured community of baptized disciples (Ac. 15:2; 16:4; 1 Jn. 4:6)---and the gates of hell would not prevail against that one historic Church that He built.
In any case, given that you have rejected the central and defining teachings of Christ's Church---and therefore of Christ Himself (Lk. 10:16; 1 Tim. 3:15)---you remain outside His Body, and apart from the Lord.
Gaudium de veritate,
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Dan Emanuel
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Think about it more...the gates of Hell cannot overcome...how can gates even attempt to overcome...they close and lock. Jesus went to Hell and the gates of Hell could not over come him, he who is the Truth.
God's Truth cannot be overcome.
God's Truth
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You are in an apostate denomination, and I am trying to help you.
Your denomination does the things that God hates.
Dan Emanuel
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I know you have no other way to defend your false doctrines than to slander me.
Why did you chose the name Daniel as your screen name? You do know you are no Daniel of the Bible don't you?
Why did you chose the name Emanuel? You surely are not God with us.
Stop doing the devil's will by trying to slander me.
Dan Emanuel
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What denomination am I in?
No thank's.
You claim your Jesus in this thread. Does God hate that?
Daniel
Dan Emanuel
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You are in false doctrines. God hates that.
Cruciform
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Already answered (Post #408).
Nazaroo
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hmmm.
I'm surprised at the responses.
I can't answer the question because I DO say the Lord's Prayer daily.
I also say it anytime I feel like it, and I also say it to help me focus on
what the content of my additional prayers should be.
I also paraphrase it to keep it from becoming a monotonous or meaningless exercise
by having my mind accidentally drift while praying.
I'm surprised that others did not answer in the affirmative,
that is, that they actually say the Lord's prayer.
I don't say it as a 'penance' whatever that is, or a punishment,
but I view it as a blessing and a great example and template/guideline
for prayer generally.
I can't see how it could be construed "for Jews only",
or understood to only apply to Jesus' time.
That makes no sense since its a universal prayer,
that blesses all those who pray it.
Sometimes I say the "Lord have mercy on me a sinner" prayer as a preamble,
to keep me in the right and humble attitude before saying "our father".
"Our Father" is a phrase of great gravity and significance,
and I do not want to say that phrase arrogantly or presumptuously,
or in a way that excludes others from the "Our" whom Jesus would have included.
Also I like to say it slowly and think about each phrase, and try to squeak
the most out of it.
It has never become boring, meaningless or obsolete,
but rather it refreshes me and reminds me that my prayer
is also a contract, and a commitment to a standard of behaviour
expected by my Lord Jesus, namely keeping the door open for
forgiveness to others, which is the basis for my own forgiveness.
The Lord's Prayer taken seriously should be humbling, reassuring,
a good reminder of the standard Jesus gave to us, and also effective.
I'm surprised at the responses.
I can't answer the question because I DO say the Lord's Prayer daily.
I also say it anytime I feel like it, and I also say it to help me focus on
what the content of my additional prayers should be.
I also paraphrase it to keep it from becoming a monotonous or meaningless exercise
by having my mind accidentally drift while praying.
I'm surprised that others did not answer in the affirmative,
that is, that they actually say the Lord's prayer.
I don't say it as a 'penance' whatever that is, or a punishment,
but I view it as a blessing and a great example and template/guideline
for prayer generally.
I can't see how it could be construed "for Jews only",
or understood to only apply to Jesus' time.
That makes no sense since its a universal prayer,
that blesses all those who pray it.
Sometimes I say the "Lord have mercy on me a sinner" prayer as a preamble,
to keep me in the right and humble attitude before saying "our father".
"Our Father" is a phrase of great gravity and significance,
and I do not want to say that phrase arrogantly or presumptuously,
or in a way that excludes others from the "Our" whom Jesus would have included.
Also I like to say it slowly and think about each phrase, and try to squeak
the most out of it.
It has never become boring, meaningless or obsolete,
but rather it refreshes me and reminds me that my prayer
is also a contract, and a commitment to a standard of behaviour
expected by my Lord Jesus, namely keeping the door open for
forgiveness to others, which is the basis for my own forgiveness.
The Lord's Prayer taken seriously should be humbling, reassuring,
a good reminder of the standard Jesus gave to us, and also effective.
God's Truth
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We have to live the prayer not say it repeatedly.