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Souls having 'immortality-potential'........
Souls having 'immortality-potential'........
This view and other schools hold that the soul is not inherently 'immortal' (meaning having the exact same divine-nature-substance) as 'God' (in this sense only 'God' alone is immortal). However, thru God's grace and divine provision, souls can be made 'immortal'. Only as souls become partakers of the divine nature and thru the 'new birth' (the fusion of the soul with God affecting a transformation) do they actually share the divine-nature with God, and thus have eternal life, real immortality, incorruptible being.
The James E Padgett messages which I shared about earlier here, holds that souls can be perfected on a level of human love, and go no farther than the 6th sphere, while the 7th sphere is for those who have received the 'new birth' and been transformed by the Spirit, via divine Love, thus becoming immortal like God is immortal. In this teaching, 'immortal' as a term denotes only the divine-life-essence of God, and therefore cannot be applied to describe souls who have not received the 'new birth', since they are still more or less 'mortal', even though they can advance to a high level of perfection of human love, and have a measure of happiness on that level of soul-development.
But to address your message above again,....souls may not not be inherently 'immortal', but can become immortal thru receiving the Spirit of God, or the divine love to such a degree, that a real 'new birth' (regeneration) occurs in that soul, in its union with God, that it merges and takes on the nature of God. In any case, the Padgett messages simplify matters without the limitation of using only the Bible and its limited passages concerning this issue, since these spirits reveal a theology that has their own terms and meanings, while similar to biblical theology, yet different as well, as they admit to errors in biblical texts, thru changes and corruptions in their transmission, and so shed the light of what they feel is true, by way of their message on the 'divine love',..how that it is key to transforming the soul, via the 'new birth', making it immortal.
Much of our mulling over ECT concerns whether souls are inherently 'eternal' shall we say (lets not say 'immortal' as we understand the term explained above), or IF souls can actually suffer a true 'death' (disintegration/extinction). ECT makes no sense, but may hypothetically be possible only IF a soul is a continual sinner, and keeps suffering the consequences for his perpetual iniquity. Soul-death may be possible IF the final and complete consequence of the total embrace of iniquity and rejection of 'God' is destruction of that soul's existence. (the wages of sin is death). Universalism could be possible IF indeed, the power of God's Love, Will and Spirit ultimately prevails in the souls of all sentient beings, where all eventually come back into harmony with Source, because at last...the Power and Presence of 'God' is irresistible, besides being the only true reality.
There is only One Reality anyways that we call 'God'. - all else are relative perceptions, speculations, assumptions, conditioned and coloured by 'point of view' or 'interpretation'. The law of karma prevails in this realm of conditional existence. Only by transcending karmic law, by fulfilling the the law of love and merging with the divine nature (in which there is no sin), are we saved, healed, restored, liberated, enlightened, made like God, etc.
pj
Souls having 'immortality-potential'........
This view and other schools hold that the soul is not inherently 'immortal' (meaning having the exact same divine-nature-substance) as 'God' (in this sense only 'God' alone is immortal). However, thru God's grace and divine provision, souls can be made 'immortal'. Only as souls become partakers of the divine nature and thru the 'new birth' (the fusion of the soul with God affecting a transformation) do they actually share the divine-nature with God, and thus have eternal life, real immortality, incorruptible being.
The James E Padgett messages which I shared about earlier here, holds that souls can be perfected on a level of human love, and go no farther than the 6th sphere, while the 7th sphere is for those who have received the 'new birth' and been transformed by the Spirit, via divine Love, thus becoming immortal like God is immortal. In this teaching, 'immortal' as a term denotes only the divine-life-essence of God, and therefore cannot be applied to describe souls who have not received the 'new birth', since they are still more or less 'mortal', even though they can advance to a high level of perfection of human love, and have a measure of happiness on that level of soul-development.
But to address your message above again,....souls may not not be inherently 'immortal', but can become immortal thru receiving the Spirit of God, or the divine love to such a degree, that a real 'new birth' (regeneration) occurs in that soul, in its union with God, that it merges and takes on the nature of God. In any case, the Padgett messages simplify matters without the limitation of using only the Bible and its limited passages concerning this issue, since these spirits reveal a theology that has their own terms and meanings, while similar to biblical theology, yet different as well, as they admit to errors in biblical texts, thru changes and corruptions in their transmission, and so shed the light of what they feel is true, by way of their message on the 'divine love',..how that it is key to transforming the soul, via the 'new birth', making it immortal.
Much of our mulling over ECT concerns whether souls are inherently 'eternal' shall we say (lets not say 'immortal' as we understand the term explained above), or IF souls can actually suffer a true 'death' (disintegration/extinction). ECT makes no sense, but may hypothetically be possible only IF a soul is a continual sinner, and keeps suffering the consequences for his perpetual iniquity. Soul-death may be possible IF the final and complete consequence of the total embrace of iniquity and rejection of 'God' is destruction of that soul's existence. (the wages of sin is death). Universalism could be possible IF indeed, the power of God's Love, Will and Spirit ultimately prevails in the souls of all sentient beings, where all eventually come back into harmony with Source, because at last...the Power and Presence of 'God' is irresistible, besides being the only true reality.
There is only One Reality anyways that we call 'God'. - all else are relative perceptions, speculations, assumptions, conditioned and coloured by 'point of view' or 'interpretation'. The law of karma prevails in this realm of conditional existence. Only by transcending karmic law, by fulfilling the the law of love and merging with the divine nature (in which there is no sin), are we saved, healed, restored, liberated, enlightened, made like God, etc.
pj
- I just edited my last post, a few 'touch-ups'. Alot here is really semantics, terms, meanings, interpretation and 'context' issues. It might be enlightening for many religionists to admit that much of their theology of the afterlife is 'speculation', besides what they could actually 'prove' (have fun with that 'subjectivity'). We have a Bible laden with so much interpretation, a con-fusion of translations.
