JonahofAkron
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Amen.
toldailytopic: Jesus was a Jew, so therefore shouldn't Christians follow Him and be J
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Amen.
Dena
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I don't think so.
Some people confuse God's covenant with Abraham with the New Covenant for now, because we know salvation is by faith.
I am circumcised and I observe the Sabbath, but I do not live in Israel. I live in the United States of America.
I'm not sure why the translators used the word "commonwealth", but I do believe that in Christ I am no longer separate from God and the covenants, no longer being a stranger.
As for the Law of Moses and the nation of Israel today, in particular you mentioned circumcision (for Gentiles?), I don't know how to answer you at present. The best I can do is offer this verse, which helps me to be focused on what matters in my daily walk:
1 Corinthians 7:19.
Junius Gallio
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It's a complex subject, and there is room for disagreement, provided that the disagreement does not cause strife between Christians.
ETA: When I was a Christian, I did not keep Sabbath. However, if I were to condemn you for doing so, I would be in the wrong. If you were to condemn me for not doing so, you would be in error. Rom 14:5.
The word of God contains truth, both promises and commands from God.
IMJerusha
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I suppose, Brother, that would depend on what you mean by "be Jewish".
Cracked
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Think about the Gospel of John. Jesus was a Jew. The Johannine Christians were Jewish. Then, what happened? Were they put out of the synagogue for Christ's sake? It seems so. In John, there is a distinction between Jesus and the law and Jesus is superior (and superior to Abraham).
My point--the Jewish disciples knew (especially the Johannine sect) that Christ supersedes what historically defined Jewishness. The lesson here seems to be that we believe in Jesus and follow His command(s), as He followed the Father's--no matter where we are at life, Jew or gentile.
My point--the Jewish disciples knew (especially the Johannine sect) that Christ supersedes what historically defined Jewishness. The lesson here seems to be that we believe in Jesus and follow His command(s), as He followed the Father's--no matter where we are at life, Jew or gentile.
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oatmeal
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Was Jesus a "Jew"?
Was Jesus a "Jew"?
Was Jesus a Jew?
What is a Jew? Where did that word originate?
It first appeared in literature about Shakespeare's time.
It was used for the people in Europe who claimed they were offspring of Israel or those who attempted to keep the law of Moses.
If we were to translate the texts of scripture more accurately and consistently, the KJV would have never used the word "Jew" but the word "Judean".
Judean is a Biblically sound word.
Jew is a johnny come lately word.
Jesus Christ was not a Jew, but a Judean.
So back to the meat of your question.
No, we should not.
George Washington was a colonist before the American Revolution.
Does that indicate that we should submit ourselves to the Queen of England?
oatmeal
Was Jesus a "Jew"?
Was Jesus a Jew?
What is a Jew? Where did that word originate?
It first appeared in literature about Shakespeare's time.
It was used for the people in Europe who claimed they were offspring of Israel or those who attempted to keep the law of Moses.
If we were to translate the texts of scripture more accurately and consistently, the KJV would have never used the word "Jew" but the word "Judean".
Judean is a Biblically sound word.
Jew is a johnny come lately word.
Jesus Christ was not a Jew, but a Judean.
So back to the meat of your question.
No, we should not.
George Washington was a colonist before the American Revolution.
Does that indicate that we should submit ourselves to the Queen of England?
oatmeal
It makes no sense. How on earth would we all learn to be Jewish? What does that even mean? We should as Christians practise our faith in Christ not our faith in our conversion to another ethnic group, nation, or their customs.
Abraham was the father of many nations. God recognizes differences in nations.
Genesis 17:5
5 No longer shall your name be called Abram, but your name shall be Abraham; for I have made you a father of many nations.
jeremysdemo
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Y'shua was a keeper of Torah, a remnant that remained as promised by God, Zephaniah 3:13.
He kept Torah in a time it was not easy to do (many extra traditions being added, Mark 7:8) and taught his disciples to do the same even tho it would lead to his eventual execution.
Yes Christians should follow Y'shua and keep Torah, in the manner in which he told us too, John 14:26.
people who are missing that covenant are missing out on a greater part of the gospel, Romans 9:27.
keep shinin
jerm
He kept Torah in a time it was not easy to do (many extra traditions being added, Mark 7:8) and taught his disciples to do the same even tho it would lead to his eventual execution.
Yes Christians should follow Y'shua and keep Torah, in the manner in which he told us too, John 14:26.
people who are missing that covenant are missing out on a greater part of the gospel, Romans 9:27.
keep shinin
jerm
Y'shua was a keeper of Torah, a remnant that remained as promised by God, Zephaniah 3:13.
He kept Torah in a time it was not easy to do (many extra traditions being added, Mark 7:8) and taught his disciples to do the same even tho it would lead to his eventual execution.
Yes Christians should follow Y'shua and keep Torah, in the manner in which he told us too, John 14:26.
people who are missing that covenant are missing out on a greater part of the gospel, Romans 9:27.
keep shinin
jerm
So what is "keeping Torah"?
jeremysdemo
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ask the source, John 15:10-12.
other references, Deuteronomy 6:5, Leviticus 19:18, He says on this all the Torah hinges, Matthew 22:40.
Having ears doth thou hear not?
keep shinin
jerm
ask the source, John 15:10-12.
other references, Deuteronomy 6:5, Leviticus 19:18, He says on this all the Torah hinges, Matthew 22:40.
Having ears doth thou hear not?
keep shinin
jerm
That's what I thought. You don't actually know.
JonahofAkron
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It's pretty self explanatory. You don't know? It's following the commands given in the first five books.
jeremysdemo
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just read what Y'shua said to keep in John 15, if the Spirit is with you it will be self evident what keeping Torah is.
Matthew 18:3
perhaps a definition will help?
keep shinin
jerm
unknown
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Following the Instructions.
scripture?
Lovebug
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A true jew, yes, the fleshly type didnt amount to much, concerning salvation.
Rom 2:28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither [is that] circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
Rom 2:29 But he [is] a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision [is that] of the heart, in the spirit, [and] not in the letter; whose praise [is] not of men, but of God.
Which is why we are not to view Jesus Christ as in the 'flesh',. once the new covenant was fully in place. All things pertaining to the flesh, was shown to be dead.
2 Cor 5:16 Wherefore henceforth know we no man after the flesh: yea, though we have known Christ after the flesh, yet now henceforth know we [him] no more.
Especially due to the fact that all things pertaining to the flesh, are considered dead, by the law.
Praise the work of Jesus!