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    Originally posted by Zakath

    except for John.
    Well Zake, at least you're one up on ol' Aussie.

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    Originally posted by Turbo

    Well Zake, at least you're one up on ol' Aussie.
    Well, I suppose all that classroom time should count for something...

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    Hey Zak, why did you go AWOL on Battle Royale VII?
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    Originally posted by Dread Helm

    Hey Zak, why did you go AWOL on Battle Royale VII?
    Probably because Bob welched on the good intentions of the debate. Zakath demonstrated more integrity.
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    By disappearing without notifying the moderator?

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    Originally posted by Turbo

    By disappearing without notifying the moderator?
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    Well freak, I have never met Bob Enyart, I have never talked to Bob Enyart, nor have I ever read the Plot. All my theological teaching has come from my pastor and theology professor at Derby School of Theology, Jeremy Finkenbinder. So you can blame him for my heretical beliefs!

    Anyways, in response to your wonderful thread, I really only have one thing to say. According to Luke 1:6, why were they righteous before God?

    Luke 1:6
    6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
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    Originally posted by doogieduff
    Anyways, in response to your wonderful thread, I really only have one thing to say. According to Luke 1:6, why were they righteous before God?

    Luke 1:6
    6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
    This verse does not say that they were "righteous before God" because they were blameless in regard to walking in the commandments and ordinances of God.

    They were righteous before God because of their "faith".They fact that they were blameless in regard to walking in the commandments speak of their "obedience of faith".

    But those at the Derby School of Theology you cannot seem to be able to distinguish between "faith" and "obedience of faith".

    Paul also says that at the time that he was persecuting the church his "righteousness which is in the law" was blameless (Phil.3:6).

    But despite this he was not saved.Are you not aware that "righteousness" before God is not according to Law keeping?:

    "...for if there had been a law given which could have given life,verily righteousness should have been by the law.But the Scriptures hath concluded all under sin,that the promise by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ might be given to them who believe"(Gal.3:21,22).

    That is why Paul says that "no man" is justified by the works of the law.And those who say that righteousness can can come by law keeping then they should consider the words of Paul:

    "...for if righteousness come by the law,then Christ is dead in vain"(Gal.2:21).

    In His grace,--Jerry
    Last edited by Jerry Shugart; April 16th, 2004 at 03:10 PM.

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    Originally posted by doogieduff

    All my theological teaching has come from my pastor and theology professor at Derby School of Theology, Jeremy Finkenbinder. So you can blame him for my heretical beliefs!
    He's a theology professor? You're in trouble.

    Anyways, in response to your wonderful thread, I really only have one thing to say. According to Luke 1:6, why were they righteous before God?

    Luke 1:6
    6 And they were both righteous before God, walking in all the commandments and ordinances of the Lord blameless.
    Righteousness came to them through God...

    For in the gospel a righteousness from God is revealed, a righteousness that is by faith from first to last, just as it is written: "The righteous will live by faith.":
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    Originally posted by Jerry Shugart

    This verse does not say that they were "righteous before God" because they were blameless in regard to walking in the commandments and ordinances of God.

    They were righteous before God because of their "faith".They fact that they were blameless in regard to walking in the commandments speak of their "obedience of faith".

    But those at the Derby School of Theology you cannot seem to be able to distinguish between "faith" and "obedience of faith".

    Paul also says that at the time that he was persecuting the church his "righteousness which is in the law" was blameless (Phil.3:6).

    But despite this he was not saved.Are you not aware that "righteousness" before God is not according to Law keeping?:

    "...for if there had been a law given which could have given life,verily righteousness should have been by the law.But the Scriptures hath concluded all under sin,that the promise by the faithfulness of Jesus Christ might be given to them who believe"(Gal.3:21,22).

    That is why Paul says that "no man" is justified by the works of the law.And those who say that righteousness can can come by law keeping then they should consider the words of Paul:

    "...for if righteousness come by the law,then Christ is dead in vain"(Gal.2:21).

    In His grace,--Jerry
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    Freak last visited TOL August 7th, 2010 and this thread is almost 7 years old. Do you have comments you want to make about the thread?

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    Nah - I found it in the Hall of Fame and thought others might also find it interesting.

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