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    Though I believe in the SALVATION OF ALL PEOPLE I also believe that THE LAW stands.

    There is NO USE in denying the DIRECT WORDS OF GOD. Those who teach such things are TEACHERS OF LAWLESSNESS.

    The question then is WHY does the LAW STAND? What purpose does it SERVE?

    Another question is WHY can't people obey it ENTIRELY?

    The answers to these questions are QUITE simple and elementary.

    The LAW reveals the PRESENCE OF SIN that dwells in US ALL.

    The LAW arouses THESE THINGS in us and CONFIRMS that SIN indwells us and that EVIL is present within us ALL.

    On this basis alone THE LAW stands to THIS DAY and those who deny it ARE FALSE TEACHERS and LIARS and WORD denigrators.

    You who think THE LAW is NOT FOR YOU are wrong. While it is true you will find NO LIFE granted by THE LAW you will CERTAINLY find the "revealing of the man of sin" who controls most of you.

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    Re: Enyart Supporter Claims Righteousness Comes Through the Law

    Originally posted by Freak

    doogie, a ardent supporter of Enyart and plot materials, has recently stated:

    "Actually, you're quite mistaken. Scripture explicitly states, Therefore one WILL BE declared righteous in his sight by observing the law.'

    http://www.theologyonline.com/forums...325#post504325

    He says this despite what the apostle Paul stated...

    Romans 3

    Therefore no one will be declared righteous in his sight by observing the law; rather, through the law we become conscious of sin. But now a righteousness from God, apart from law...

    Where, then, is boasting? It is excluded. On what principle? On that of observing the law? No, but on that of faith. For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from observing the law.
    Mr. divisive strikes again!

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    doogie is probably Larry (from BEL show "Can Larry Burn Forever") in disguise
    "I maintain my pride in the face of men, but I abandon it before God, who drew me out of nothingness to make me what I am." - The Count of Monte Cristo

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    Originally posted by Turbo

    "I maintain my pride in the face of men, but I abandon it before God, who drew me out of nothingness to make me what I am." - The Count of Monte Cristo

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    Originally posted by Turbo

    "I maintain my pride in the face of men, but I abandon it before God, who drew me out of nothingness to make me what I am." - The Count of Monte Cristo

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    I wonder if Freak will ever notice that he keeps quoting Paul and never the twelve apostles when on the subject of grace.


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    Shimei: Thank for commenting on my BEL show.
    "I maintain my pride in the face of men, but I abandon it before God, who drew me out of nothingness to make me what I am." - The Count of Monte Cristo

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    Originally posted by Shimei

    I wonder if Freak will ever notice that he keeps quoting Paul and never the twelve apostles when on the subject of grace.

    Since you are counting apostles, I am wondering if you can quote what

    "Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him," (Matthew 10:3,4 KJV) had to say about the subject of grace?

    Andrew wrote no epistles to which we can refer to.

    Also feel free to add the one that replaced Judas: And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. (Acts 1:26 KJV) What did this Mattias have to say about grace?

    Essentially we are left with 3 of the 12 you infer had something to say about grace: Peter, James and John.

    Which kind of reduces your point a little bit, doesn't it?
    Last edited by Kronus; April 15th, 2004 at 03:36 PM.
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    Uhhh, actually they were "zealos for the Law" not on fire for grace.
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    Originally posted by Dread Helm

    Uhhh, actually they were "zealos for the Law" not on fire for grace.
    Acts 21:20
    And when they heard it, they glorified the Lord. And they said to him, "You see, brother, how many myriads of Jews there are who have believed, and they are all zealous for the law;"

    Galatians 2
    7But on the contrary, when they saw that the gospel for the uncircumcised had been committed to me, as the gospel for the circumcised was to Peter



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    Originally posted by Dread Helm

    Shimei: Thank for commenting on my BEL show.
    "I maintain my pride in the face of men, but I abandon it before God, who drew me out of nothingness to make me what I am." - The Count of Monte Cristo

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    Re: Re: Enyart Supporter Claims Righteousness Comes Through the Law

    Originally posted by Knight

    Mr. divisive strikes again!
    Good work. Perhaps, next time you can deal with the Scriptural record. Homework for Knight:

    Does righteousness come from a person (any person of the Trinity) or from the Law?

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    Originally posted by Kronus to Shimei

    Since you are counting apostles, I am wondering if you can quote what

    "Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus; Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him," (Matthew 10:3,4 KJV) had to say about the subject of grace?

    Also feel free to add the one that replaced Judas: And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. (Acts 1:26 KJV) What did this Mattias have to say about grace?

    Essentially we are left with 3 of the 12 you infer had something to say about grace: Peter, James and John.

    Which kind of reduces your point a little bit, doesn't it?
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    Actually, from what I recall in seminary, there is not very strong evidence that a single one of the twelve wrote anything in the New Testament, except for John.

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