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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Now let's talk about the attempt to assimilate those people that committed barbaric acts into the Judeo-Christian based society that America was:

    How Boarding Schools Tried to ‘Kill the Indian’ Through Assimilation

    “Kill the Indian in him, and save the man.”

    That was the mindset under which the U.S. government forced tens of thousands of Native American children to attend “assimilation” boarding schools in the late 19th century. Decades later, those words—delivered in a speech by U.S. cavalry captain Richard Henry Pratt, who opened the first such school in Carlisle, Pennsylvania—have come to symbolize the brutality of the boarding school system.

    The history of this forced assimilation is far from settled. On August 7, 2017, the U.S. Army began exhuming the graves of three children from the Northern Arapaho tribe who had died at Pratt’s Carlisle Indian Industrial School in the 1880s. The children’s names were Little Chief, Horse, and Little Plume—names they were forbidden to use at the school.

    Students at Carlisle and the roughly 150 other such schools that the government opened were susceptible to deadly infections like tuberculosis and the flu. During Carlisle’s operation between 1879 and 1918, nearly 200 other children were buried in the same cemetery as the Northern Arapaho boys, according to The Washington Post.

    Carlisle and other boarding schools were part of a long history of U.S. attempts to either kill, remove, or assimilate Native Americans. In 1830, the U.S. forced Native Americans to move west of the Mississippi to make room for U.S. expansion with the the Indian Removal Act. But a few decades later, the U.S. worried it was running out of places to relocate the country’s original inhabitants. . . .

    As part of this federal push for assimilation, boarding schools forbid Native American children from using their own languages and names, as well as from practicing their religion and culture. They were given new Anglo-American names, clothes, and haircuts, and told they must abandon their way of life because it was inferior to white people’s.

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    Throughout the Northeast, proclamations to create ‘redskins’, or scalps of Native Americans, were common during war and peace times. According to the 1775 Phips Proclamation in Massachusetts, King George II of Britain called for “subjects to embrace all opportunities of pursuing, captivating, killing and destroying all and every of the aforesaid Indians.”

    Colonists were paid for each Penobscot Native they killed – fifty pounds for adult male scalps, twenty-five for adult female scalps, and twenty for scalps of boys and girls under age twelve. These proclamations explicitly display the settlers’ “intent to kill”, a major indicator of genocidal acts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    How does one "cheat" a nomadic people out of land that they never owned or fully inhabited in the first place?
    Hmmmm and we owned it?
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    "We" came over, found an empty land (with inconvenient savages wandering around) and claimed it

    Mine! "we" said, and "we" meant it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Throughout the Northeast, proclamations to create ‘redskins’, or scalps of Native Americans...

    I've never seen contemporary accounts using "redskins" in that manner - got a link?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    I've never seen contemporary accounts using "redskins" in that manner - got a link?
    You just quoted the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    How Boarding Schools Tried to ‘Kill the Indian’ Through Assimilation

    “Kill the Indian in him, and save the man.”
    What this liberal article fails to acknowledge that these "boarding schools" were missions run by Catholics. They were places where pagan children were taught about God and where amongst other things they were given immunizations against diseases.

    If the author of the above post would like to talk about the infant/child mortality rate amongst the various Indian tribes I'd be more than happy to discuss that subject.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    You just quoted the link.
    Yes, I went there, didn't see any primary sources


    And they're wrong about smallpox and blankets as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    What this liberal article fails to acknowledge that these "boarding schools" were missions run by Catholics. They were places where pagan children were taught about God and where amongst other things they were given immunizations against diseases.

    If the author of the above post would like to talk about the infant/child mortality rate amongst the various Indian tribes I'd be more than happy to discuss that subject.
    Catholics are guilty too. There's bad history in the missions.

    You can't whitewash this. Why you're even trying boggles the mind. White Christians are guilty of the basest kinds of cruelty and they won, didn't they? Your whole thread is pointless. And racist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Throughout the Northeast, proclamations to create ‘redskins’, or scalps of Native Americans, were common during war and peace times.
    The history of scalping.

    Intertribal warfare

    Author and historian Mark van de Logt wrote, "Although military historians tend to reserve the concept of 'total war'", in which civilians are targeted, "for conflicts between modern industrial nations," the term "closely approaches the state of affairs between the Pawnees, the Sioux, and the Cheyennes. Noncombatants were legitimate targets. Indeed, the taking of a scalp of a woman or child was considered honorable because it signified that the scalp taker had dared to enter the very heart of the enemy's territory."[13]
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native..._United_States

    I really shouldn't be redundant, as it's been discussed numerous times in this thread the savagery American Indians committed against women, children and babies.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
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    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Yes, I went there, didn't see any primary sources


    And they're wrong about smallpox and blankets as well
    Follow the links in the article. This is from one of them, regarding the smallpox:

    Unfortunately for this thesis, we know of but a single instance of such warfare, and the documentary evidence is inconclusive. In 1763, a particularly serious uprising threatened the British garrisons west of the Allegheny mountains. Worried about his limited resources, and disgusted by what he saw as the Indians’ treacherous and savage modes of warfare, Sir Jeffrey Amherst, commander-in-chief of British forces in North America, wrote as follows to Colonel Henry Bouquet at Fort Pitt:"You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians [with smallpox] by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method, that can serve to extirpate this execrable race."

    Bouquet clearly approved of Amherst's suggestion, but whether he himself carried it out is uncertain. On or around June 24, two traders at Fort Pitt did give blankets and a handkerchief from the fort’s quarantined hospital to two visiting Delaware Indians, and one of the traders noted in his journal:"I hope it will have the desired effect." Smallpox was already present among the tribes of Ohio; at some point after this episode, there was another outbreak in which hundreds died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    You just quoted the link.
    As well, they propagate the 90% death rate as fact, when most scholars accept that 90% is the upper range of a broad array of estimates, some as low as 15%, a matter of dispute, research and discussion among experts in the field

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    Last edited by ok doser; September 10th, 2019 at 10:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    The history of scalping.
    Phips Proclamation


    A PROCLAMATION

    Whereas the Tribe of Penobscot Indians have repeatedly in a perfidious manner acted contrary to their Solemn Submission unto his Majesty long since mad and frequently renewed. I have therefore at the desire of the House of Representatives with the Advice of his Majesty's Council thought fit to issue the Proclamation and to declare the Penobscot tribe of Indians to be Enemies, Rebells, and Traitors to his Majesty King George the Second.

    And I do hereby require his Majesty's Subjects of this Province to Embrace all opportunities of pursuing, captivating, killing and Destroying all and every of the aforesaid Indians.

    And whereas the General Court of the Province have Voted that a bounty or Incouragement be granted and allowed to be paid out of the public Treasuryto the Marching Forces that shall have been employed for the Defence of the Eastern and Western Frontiers from the first of the twenty-fifth of this Instant November --I have thought fit to publish the same and I do hereby Promis that there shall be paid out of the Province Treasury to all and any of the said Forces over and above their Bounty upon inlistment, their Wages and Subsistance the Premiums or Bounty following viz.

    For every Male Penobscot Indian above the Age of twelve years that shall be taken within the Time aforesaid and brought to Boston Fifty Pounds.

    For every Female Penobscot Indian taken and brought in as aforesaid and for Every Male Indian Prisoner under the age of twelve Years taken and brought in as aforesaid Twenty five Pounds.

    For every Scalp of such Female Indian or Male Indian under the Age of twelve years that Shall be killed and brought in as Evidence of their being killed as aforesaid, Twenty pounds.

    Given at the Council Chamber in Boston this third day of November 1755 and in the twenty ninth Year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord George the second by the Grace of God of Great Britain France and Ireland King Defender of the Faith.

    S. PHIPS
    By his Honour's Command,
    J. WILLARD, Secry.
    God save the King.

















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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Catholics are guilty too. There's bad history in the missions.
    Yeah, the Catholic Church is probably one of the most unsafe places a child could be in modern day America, but those missions helped many an American Indian discover God.
    http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07747a.htm
    http://www.newadvent.org/utility/sea...=FORID%3A9#848

    I know in the secular humanist world that's considered a bad thing, but my thread is titled "The Politically Incorrect Truth about the American Indian" for a reason.

    You can't whitewash this. Why you're even trying boggles the mind. White Christians are guilty of the basest kinds of cruelty and they won, didn't they? Your whole thread is pointless. And racist.
    Shall we review the lies misinformation that you've been caught posting? Shall we start with your post that pretty much stated that the American Indian were conservationists when in reality they raped the natural resources of America?
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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