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    Another indicative of Gentiles being Sheep is carefully looking at who Christ lay down His Life for, or gave Himself for. In Jn 10:11,15

    11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
    15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
    Now compare what Paul wrote to whom Christ Loved and gave His Life for Eph 5:25

    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

    Charles Spurgeon !

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Another passage indicative of Gentiles and Jews being Christ Sheep is Acts 20:28

    28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    All the Flock i believe refers to Sheep like in a flock of Sheep !

    And the Church, the Body of Christ is comprised of both jew and gentile believers ! So its Spiritually logical that scripture indicates that gentiles that belong to the Body of Christ are His Sheep !
    1. There are other animals that flock, besides sheep. It does NOT unequivocally say sheep.
    2. If believers where sheep, why is Paul silent in ALL THIRTEEN of his epistles? That's very strong evidence that believers in the body of Christ are not sheep.
    3. I know that you will not understand a single word in this post.
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    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Lol, You aught to be worried in you arent one of Christs Sheep ! Thats who He said He specifically died for Jn 10:11,15
    I'm not worried as I was saved by grace through faith into His body.

    So you silly people can threaten all that you like. You understand virtually none of the Bible.
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    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Another indicative of Gentiles being Sheep is carefully looking at who Christ lay down His Life for, or gave Himself for. In Jn 10:11,15

    11 I am the good shepherd: the good shepherd giveth his life for the sheep.
    15 As the Father knoweth me, even so know I the Father: and I lay down my life for the sheep.
    Now compare what Paul wrote to whom Christ Loved and gave His Life for Eph 5:25

    25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
    You are a Bible blender/masher that can magically combine any two scriptures into a complete mess!
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    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    You are a Bible blender/masher that can magically combine any two scriptures into a complete mess!
    You been told!

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    You been told!

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    So have you.
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    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Another passage indicative of Gentiles and Jews being Christ Sheep is Acts 20:28

    28 [FONT="]Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    All the Flock i believe refers to Sheep like in a flock of Sheep !

    And the Church, the Body of Christ is comprised of both jew and gentile believers ! So its Spiritually logical that scripture indicates that gentiles that belong to the Body of Christ are His Sheep ![/FONT]
    Absolutely !
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    Absolutely !
    Not necessarily

    The church of God was composed of members of the believing remnant of Israel who believed on Christ and the gospel of the kingdom and grace believers, members of the body of Christ.

    Paul persecuted the remnant of Israel, the church of God, before he was saved (Galatians 1:13).

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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Another passage indicative of Gentiles and Jews being Christ Sheep is Acts 20:28

    28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    All the Flock i believe refers to Sheep like in a flock of Sheep !

    And the Church, the Body of Christ is comprised of both jew and gentile believers ! So its Spiritually logical that scripture indicates that gentiles that belong to the Body of Christ are His Sheep !
    Not necessarily

    The church of God was composed of members of the believing remnant of Israel who believed on Christ and the gospel of the kingdom and grace believers, members of the body of Christ.

    Paul persecuted the remnant of Israel, the church of God, before he was saved (Galatians 1:13).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougE View Post
    Not necessarily

    The church of God was composed of members of the believing remnant of Israel who believed on Christ and the gospel of the kingdom and grace believers, members of the body of Christ.

    Paul persecuted the remnant of Israel, the church of God, before he was saved (Galatians 1:13).
    As already stated. The Church, the Body of Christ was constituted with believing jews and gentiles, Christs Sheep Flock
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    Scriptures that indicate that Gentiles are Sheep, and not just ethnic jews. In fact all ethnic jews werent Christs Sheep Jn 10:26

    26 [FONT="]But ye[jews] believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.

    In the same context in Vs 16 Jesus speaks of sheep He had not of the jewish fold

    [/FONT]
    16 [FONT="]And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

    Notice Jesus says these other Sheep shall hear His voice.

    The same was said of the call of the gentiles Acts 28:28

    [/FONT]
    Be it known therefore unto you, that the salvation of God is sent unto the Gentiles, and that they will hear it.
    The other sheep are the scattered remant of believing Israel and does not referr to Gentiles.

    Isaiah 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

    Notice the outcasts are of Israel not Gentiles and will be gathered unto the ones already gathered.

    Jeremiah 23:3And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

    This is the scattered remnant of Israel that John 10:16 talks of. There will be one fold and one shepherd (Ezekiel 37:24).

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougE View Post
    The other sheep are the scattered remant of believing Israel and does not referr to Gentiles.

    Isaiah 56:8 The Lord GOD which gathereth the outcasts of Israel saith, Yet will I gather others to him, beside those that are gathered unto him.

    Notice the outcasts are of Israel not Gentiles and will be gathered unto the ones already gathered.

    Jeremiah 23:3And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.

    This is the scattered remnant of Israel that John 10:16 talks of. There will be one fold and one shepherd (Ezekiel 37:24).
    They were not of the jewish fold they were other Sheep, different !
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    As already stated. The Church, the Body of Christ was constituted with believing jews and gentiles, Christs Sheep Flock
    Gentiles and Jews in the body are not referred to as sheep but a new creature Galatians 6:15

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougE View Post
    Gentiles and Jews in the body are not referred to as sheep but a new creature Galatians 6:15
    I just showd you that the Church of God was referred to as the flock Acts 20:28

    28 Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    Flock :

    ποίμνιον, ποιμνίου, τό (contracted from ποιμενιον, equivalent to ποίμνη, see ποιμήν; (on the accent cf. Winers Grammar, 52; Chandler 313 b.)), a flock (especially) of sheep:so of a group of Christ's disciples, Luke 12:32; of bodies of Christians (churches) presided over by elders (cf. references under the word ποιμήν, b.), Acts 20:28, 29; 1 Peter 5:3;
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    Quote Originally Posted by beloved57 View Post
    I just showd you that the Church of God was referred to as the flock Acts 20:28

    28 [FONT="]Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his own blood.

    [/FONT]
    Flock :

    ποίμνιον, ποιμνίου, τό (contracted from ποιμενιον, equivalent to ποίμνη, see ποιμήν; (on the accent cf. Winers Grammar, 52; Chandler 313 b.)), a flock (especially) of sheep:so of a group of Christ's disciples, Luke 12:32; of bodies of Christians (churches) presided over by elders (cf. references under the word ποιμήν, b.), Acts 20:28, 29; 1 Peter 5:3;
    I am confused....so are you saying the church of God is the body of Christ?

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