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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Take it up with the State Legislators of every US State who authorize the removal of a child from an abusive home as long as probable cause has been established which shows that the child was in imminent danger. In probable cause cases, the Due Process Clause (a court hearing) comes in after the child has been placed in a safe environment.
    In other words, there is no due process for taking children for any and all excuses that a CPS employee can invent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    In other words, there is no due process for taking children for any and all excuses that a CPS employee can invent.
    If there were no court hearings on the case after the abused child has been placed in temporary protective custody, you would be correct in saying that there is no due process, but there is.

    Regarding CPS investigators "inventing" evidence:

    I would ask you to provide evidence from something other than a libertarian website, but that request hasn't produced anything throughout this thread, so I don't expect it to happen now.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Here is a possible hypothesis, or what the historians would call a thesis: Since the Democratic Party, in its 2016-2019 state, tends to be dominant in states of the East Coast and in the states of the West Coast, plus a few states closer to the Heartland, like Illinois, the Socialist, Marxist, Communist or Leftist political ideology would be strongest among Social Workers in those East and West Coast Blue States. An allied hypothesis would postulate that the Leftist ideology among Social Workers is stronger in large urban areas, no matter if the state is Blue or Red.

    Now, bring in the data on Child Protective Services being used in Child Sex Trafficking and see where this is greater, in large urban centers and in states of the East and West Coast? https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/ch...on-services-ex

    But this problem is not limited to states of the West and East Coast. https://medicalkidnap.com/2017/02/20...x-trafficking/

    "Texas Child “Protection” Services: Pipeline to Child Sex Trafficking"

    "The Crime of Being Poor: The State Takes Away Your Children"

    "The Texas Tribune also reports:

    Low-paid, overworked child welfare workers quit their jobs at alarming rates; one-third of investigative caseworkers leave each year.

    This is a typical excuse given by the mainstream media as to why children in the system are being abused – not enough funding for social workers.

    However, CPS whistleblowers tell us a different story. They talk about broad corruption within the agencies, and how good social workers never last, as they learn quickly it is not about helping the children, but protecting the agency and bringing in federal funding to support the system."

    "It is a system where, as U.S. District Judge Janis Jack wrote in a 2015 legal opinion,

    “rape, abuse, psychotropic medication and instability are the norm” and children often leave more damaged than when they arrive.

    It is also a system from which many children enter the world of selling sex. Eighty-six percent of runaway children in the United States suspected of being forced into sex work came from the child welfare system, according to a 2016 analysis of cases reported to the National Center on Missing and Exploited Children. Of the 79,000 child sex trafficking victims estimated to be in the state, the vast majority were in foster care or had previous contact with Child Protective Services, according to a recent University of Texas study.

    “It’s very easy for a trafficker to prey on those specific kids,” said Dixie Hairston, who leads anti-sex-trafficking efforts in North Texas for the nonprofit advocacy group Children At Risk. “Something is going wrong. These kids are not being kept safe.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    If there were no court hearings on the case after the abused child has been placed in temporary protective custody, you would be correct in saying that there is no due process
    Many children who are not in any danger and are not being abused are being taken by CPS, put into foster homes, and sexually abused by the foster parents and/or the other children in the foster home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    I would ask you to provide evidence from something other than a libertarian website, but that request hasn't produced anything throughout this thread, so I don't expect it to happen now.
    I would like the extreme leftist mainstream media to publish the truth, but I don't expect that to happen either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Many children who are not in any danger and are not being abused are being taken by CPS,
    Documentation please.

    put into foster homes, and sexually abused by the foster parents and/or the other children in the foster home.
    I'm sure it happens, as I mentioned, in many cases these children are put into the custody of homosexuals.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Documentation please
    You know that CPS refuses any requests for documentation that would show their abuses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by northwye View Post

    Now, bring in the data on Child Protective Services being used in Child Sex Trafficking and see where this is greater, in large urban centers and in states of the East and West Coast?
    https://healthimpactnews.com/2015/ch...on-services-ex

    Have the Governors and the Attorney Generals of these States been notified with some evidence to back these serious (and if not backed with hard evidence, libelous) allegations?

    Certainly if you're interested in the welfare of children you're doing something to stop these alleged child rapists.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    You know that CPS refuses any requests for documentation that would show their abuses.
    According to the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services, that's not the case:

    How do I make a complaint?
    First, you should talk to your DFPS investigator or her or his supervisor.
    If you think DFPS is handling your case improperly, and you can't resolve the issue with your investigator, caseworker, or supervisor, you can contact the Office of Consumer Relations by calling 1-800-720-7777 or by email at OCR@dfps.state.tx.us .

    What can I do if I disagree with the conduct or findings of the DFPS investigation?
    Speak to your investigator. An open discussion may settle the matter. If you can't resolve your concerns with the investigator, discuss them with the supervisor. If DFPS thinks that you were responsible for child abuse or neglect and you disagree, you can request an administrative review of the investigation, unless a court has upheld the findings. DFPS will give you instructions on how to request this review in the letter it sends when it closes the investigation.
    You may also contact the DFPS Office of Consumer Relations:
    Online: question and complaint form
    Phone: 1-800-720-7777 (toll-free)
    Fax: (512) 339-5892
    Email: OCR @ dfps.state.tx.us
    https://www.dfps.state.tx.us/Investi...estigation.asp
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    WE HAVE SET UP A SYSTEM TO SEX TRAFFIC AMERICAN CHILDREN

    We must ask the question that gets to the root of the problem: where are these victims coming from?

    Here's the ugly truth: most Americans who are victims of sex trafficking come from our nation's own foster care system. It's a deeply broken system that leaves thousands vulnerable to pimps as children and grooms them for the illegal sex trade as young adults.

    We have failed our children by not fixing the systemic failures that have allowed this to happen for decades.

    Most people don't know about our nation's foster care to sex trafficking pipeline, but the facts are sobering. The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children (NCMEC) found that "of the more than 18,500 endangered runaways reported to NCMEC in 2016, one in six were likely victims of child sex trafficking. Of those, 86 percent were in the care of social services when they went missing."

    The outcomes of law enforcement efforts against sex traffickers repeatedly support the NCMEC estimate. In a 2013 FBI 70-city nationwide raid, 60 percent of the victims came from foster care or group homes. In 2014, New York authorities estimated that 85 percent of sex trafficking victims were previously in the child welfare system.

    In 2012, Connecticut police rescued 88 children from sex trafficking; 86 were from the child welfare system. And even more alarming: the FBI discovered in a 2014 nationwide raid that many foster children rescued from sex traffickers, including children as young as 11, were never reported missing by child welfare authorities.

    The essential failure is how we care for these children. As NCMEC's CEO told Congress in 2013, "Children in foster care are easy targets for pimps [they] are the most susceptible to the manipulation and false promises that traffickers use to secure their trust and dependency. These children have fractured safety nets and few alternatives."

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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Again: America has to get rid of this deadly libertarian mentality and return to Judeo-Christian values. Perverts and drug addicts are raising children and when they're justifiably taken away from them by CPS, in some cases that abused child goes to the home of another abuser.

    It's a vicious cycle, and as I've shown throughout this thread and others: The things that libertarians say are "victimless crimes" aren't so victimless.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Again: America has to get rid of this deadly libertarian mentality and return to Judeo-Christian values.
    CPS is in opposition to Judeo-Christian values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    CPS is in opposition to Judeo-Christian values.
    Judeo-Christian values is all about protecting children from harm.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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    Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior View Post
    Judeo-Christian values is all about protecting children from harm.
    Please show me the verses that say you must take your neighbor's children away from them whenever you suspect that the children are in danger.
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    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Please show me the verses that say you must take your neighbor's children away from them whenever you suspect that the children are in danger.
    Here, let me fix that sentence for you:

    Quote Originally Posted by genuineoriginal View Post
    Please show me the verses that say you must take your neighbor's children away from them whenever you suspect when there is strong evidence that the child(ren) are in danger.
    There, that's better.

    How about we start with the biblical role of civil government?

    Romans 13:4

    Then there's Matthew 19:14 and one of my favorites:

    Mark 9:42.
    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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