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    JOHN 11:25 THE RESURRECTION

    John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the resurrection at the last day.

    11:25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

    11:26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest thou this?

    11:27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the Son of God, which should come into the world.

    Jesus has promised that by believing in him we shall live, never to die. There is no caveat here to the promise of eternal life, to give it, then take it away. There is nothing for us to do to know we have life everlasting but to believe. It is all by Christ Jesus.

    Martha believed on Jesus as the Christ, the Son of God unto eternal life (John 3:16 John 20:31). Martha confessed that Jesus is Christ, the Son of God according to the requirements of the covenant for blessing (1 Kings 8:35-36 Matthew 10:32 Romans 10:9 1 john 4:15 Revelation 3:5).

    There are two resurrections:

    Acts 24:15 And have hope toward God, which they themselves also allow, that there shall be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and unjust.

    Broadly speaking there is the resurrection of the just and the unjust.

    1 Thessalonians 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

    4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

    1 Corinthians 15:52 In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.

    The resurrection of the just is the first resurrection and is in two parts, but everyone in their own order (1 Corinthians 15:23):

    The first part of the first resurrection is the resurrection of those in the body of Christ which occurs before the tribulation (Matthew 3:7 1 Thessalonians 1:10). They will be resurrected and be given positions in the heavenly places (Ephesians 1:3 Ephesians 2:6).

    The dead in Christ will rise first (1 Thessalonians 4:16) then afterwards those in the body who are alive (1 Thessalonians 4:15).

    Revelation 20:4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

    The second part of the first resurrection is of the old testament saints, the kingdom saints, and the tribulation saints, and occurs after the tribulation, at the Lord's coming.

    Those in Christ are the kingdom saints who believed on Jesus before the dispensation of grace and the body of Christ was revealed to Paul. The kingdom saints will enter into the promised kingdom on earth and reign with Christ.

    The old testament saints in Christ are resurrected as well in the second part of the first resurrection and will enter the kingdom. Those that sat on the thrones as mentioned in Revelation 20:4 would include the twelve apostles (Matthew 19:28). It can also be seen that Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob will be raised at this time to enter the kingdom (Matthew 8:11).

    The saints who die in the tribulation are likewise included in the second part of the first resurrection. They will be raised at the coming of the Lord Jesus and as stated in Revelation 20:4, will enter the Davidic kingdom on earth and reign with Christ.

    Revelation 20:5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.

    The rest of the dead are all the unbelievers from Adam onward.

    Revelation 20:6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

    The believing remnant of Israel, Jew and Gentile, consisting of the old testament saints, the kingdom saints, and the tribulation saints will enter the kingdom. The Israel of God will be priests unto God and shall reign with Christ.

    Revelation 20:11 And I saw a great white throne, and him that sat on it, from whose face the earth and the heaven fled away; and there was found no place for them.

    20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.

    20:13 And the sea gave up the dead which were in it; and death and hell delivered up the dead which were in them: and they were judged every man according to their works.

    20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

    20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

    The unbelievers are the rest of the dead and are risen last after the thousand year reign of Christ to stand before the great white throne according to Revelation 20:5 ; this is the second resurrection. The second death is being thrown into the lake of fire.

    John 7:2 Now the Jew's feast of tabernacles was at hand.

    John 7:37 In the last day, that great day of the feast, Jesus stood and cried, saying, If any man thirst, let him come unto me, and drink.

    The resurrection is referred to as being at "the last day" in John 11:24 and it is not clear what is meant, but the last day seems to find correlation with the feast of tabernacles in John 7:37.

    Zechariah 14:16 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.

    Zechariah is speaking of the feast of tabernacles during the millennial reign of Christ; the resurrections of the just will occur at the coming of Christ to establish his heavenly and earthly kingdoms.

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    Christians will also be judged.

    "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad" (2 Cor. 5:10).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    Christians will also be judged.

    "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad" (2 Cor. 5:10).
    What type of judgment?
    All of my ancestors are human.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    What type of judgment?
    Good question. I believe the main base of the Christian life depends on charity. So I like to read 1 Cor. 13:4-7 the definition of charity by the apostle Paul. I do not believe in spiritual perfection. Thus I pray the Lord's prayer every morning and night asking for forgiveness of my debts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    Good question. I believe the main base of the Christian life depends on charity. So I like to read 1 Cor. 13:4-7 the definition of charity by the apostle Paul. I do not believe in spiritual perfection. Thus I pray the Lord's prayer every morning and night asking for forgiveness of my debts.
    That did not even come close to answering my question.
    All of my ancestors are human.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    Christians will also be judged.

    "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad" (2 Cor. 5:10).
    Hello

    Yes but this is not judgment for sin, that was dealt with by the cross.

    The judgment seat is for reward as to works good or bad as members of the body.... how we edified the body of Christ according to the doctrines revealed through Paul.

    We do not have to pray for forgiveness by the way....we can grieve the Spirit by our sin, but we have forgiveness for all sin by the propitiation of Christ Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 1:14

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougE View Post
    We do not have to pray for forgiveness by the way....we can grieve the Spirit by our sin, but we have forgiveness for all sin by the propitiation of Christ Ephesians 1:7 Colossians 1:14
    The Lord's Prayer tells me to ask for forgiveness. "and forgive us our debts."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    That did not even come close to answering my question.
    What type of judgement? God's judgement. No one can fully explain what it will be like on that day. I just know that I want to be among the good and not the bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    What type of judgement? God's judgement. No one can fully explain what it will be like on that day. I just know that I want to be among the good and not the bad.
    Once again, a non-answer.
    All of my ancestors are human.
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    That explains why your an idiot.
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    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    Once again, a non-answer.
    Do you have an answer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    What type of judgement? God's judgement. No one can fully explain what it will be like on that day. I just know that I want to be among the good and not the bad.
    I agree, however we can have an idea....

    Mar 12:31 "The second is this, 'YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.' There is no other commandment greater than these."

    Luk 6:35 "But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return; and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High; for He Himself is kind to ungrateful and evil men.

    Joh 13:34 "A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another, even as I have loved you, that you also love one another.


    Paul
    Rom 13:8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for he who loves his neighbor has fulfilled the law.

    James
    Jam 2:8 If, however, you are fulfilling the royal law according to the Scripture, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF," you are doing well.

    Peter
    1Pe 4:8 Above all, keep fervent in your love for one another, because love covers a multitude of sins.

    John
    1Jo 3:11 For this is the message which you have heard from the beginning, that we should love one another;
    1Jo 4:7 Beloved, let us love one another, for love is from God; and everyone who loves is born of God and knows God.

    1Jo 4:20 If someone says, "I love God," and hates his brother, he is a liar; for the one who does not love his brother whom he has seen, cannot love God whom he has not seen.

    Don't think we to worry about good works as much as Loving? What's your thoughts?



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    From the cowardice that shrinks from new truth,
    From the laziness that is content with half-truths,
    From the arrogance that thinks it knows all truth,
    Oh God of Truth, deliver us.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    Christians will also be judged.

    "For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may be recompensed for his deeds in the body, according to what he has done, whether good or bad" (2 Cor. 5:10).
    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    Do you have an answer?
    You're the one that brought it up and yet you don't seem to understand it.

    Do you understand the scripture that you quote or are you just word searching and posting the first thing that comes up?
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    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    The Lord's Prayer tells me to ask for forgiveness. "and forgive us our debts."
    Hello
    The Lord's prayer is found in the gospels not in Paul's epistles.
    Look at all that is said in it.....And forgive us our sins; for we also forgive every one that is indebted to us. And lead us not into temptation; but deliver us from evil.
    Israel was under covenants to God and we the body of Christ are not. Under the covenant and the law Israel had to forgive others or they would not be forgiven their trespasses.
    They were saved by believing Jesus was Messiah, the Son of God, but to receive the blessings and enter the coming Davidic kingdom on earth they had to, among other requirements, forgive.

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    Don't think we to worry about good works as much as Loving? What's your thoughts?
    I believe Love brings about good works.

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    The Lord's prayer is found in the gospels not in Paul's epistles.
    I still believe that the Lord wants all Christians to pray in that manner. Also Jesus told the disciples to hold communion in remembrance of Him. Paul tells us to do that also. That is in the Gospel. Why does Pual tell us to do the communion?

    "…and when He had given thanks, He broke it and said, “This is My body, which is for you; do this in remembrance of Me.” In the same way, after supper He took the cup, saying, “This cup is the new covenant in My blood; do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of Me” (1 Cor. 11:24-25).

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