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    The words of both Jesus and Paul are instructive in the context of the question in this thread.

    Matthew 24:12 "And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold."
    13 "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved."
    14 "And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come."
    Whose gospel would be preached unto all nations for a witness and then the end would come? The teachings of Jesus. It would be taught until the end of time.

    Ephesians 2:13 But now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh by the blood of Christ.
    14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    15 Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
    16 And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body by the cross, having slain the enmity thereby:
    17 And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
    18 For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
    20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
    21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
    22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
    Christ broke down the partition wall between Jew and Gentile and made of the two one new man. The Gentiles who had at one time been strangers were now fellow citizens and members of the household of God which is built upon "the apostles and prophets" with Jesus Christ being the cornerstone of the building. Jews and Gentiles were made a temple unto God and were builded together for the habitation of God through the Holy Spirit.

    Paul also said that there is no more Jew nor Greek(Gentile) in Jesus Christ.

    So, this idea that there is a separation between believing Jews and believing Gentiles is a false distinction. Both Jesus and Paul made that clear in the passages I've quoted above. All are taught the same thing as it all comes from the same foundation of the apostles and the prophets (NT and OT) with Jesus being the cornerstone. There is only one foundation. There is no second foundation. There is no second gospel for Jesus said His gospel would be preached to the end. which means that Paul's and Jesus' gospel is one and the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    The words of both Jesus and Paul are instructive in the context of the question in this thread.

    Whose gospel would be preached unto all nations for a witness and then the end would come? The teachings of Jesus. It would be taught until the end of time.

    Christ broke down the partition wall between Jew and Gentile and made of the two one new man. The Gentiles who had at one time been strangers were now fellow citizens and members of the household of God which is built upon "the apostles and prophets" with Jesus Christ being the cornerstone of the building. Jews and Gentiles were made a temple unto God and were builded together for the habitation of God through the Holy Spirit.

    Paul also said that there is no more Jew nor Greek(Gentile) in Jesus Christ.

    So, this idea that there is a separation between believing Jews and believing Gentiles is a false distinction. Both Jesus and Paul made that clear in the passages I've quoted above. All are taught the same thing as it all comes from the same foundation of the apostles and the prophets (NT and OT) with Jesus being the cornerstone. There is only one foundation. There is no second foundation. There is no second gospel for Jesus said His gospel would be preached to the end. which means that Paul's and Jesus' gospel is one and the same.
    This is exactly the kind of confusion created by lack of right division.

    Paul say that HE "laid the foundation". So just exactly how can HE lay the foundation? Since Jesus had already chosen and sent the TWELVE. Was not the foundation already laid by the time that Paul came into the picture?

    Notice any difference at all between sending TWELVE apostles that will sit on TWELVE thrones judging the TWELVE tribes of Israel and sending ONE man that preaches the ONE new man wherein there is neither Jew nor Greek? Probably you don't.
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    You preach against me for preaching obedience to Christ for salvation.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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