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    The Commies want to cancel student debt

    American Commies (Democrats) Want to Cancel Student Debt
    Michael S. Rozeff


    Some of our home-grown socialists/communists (like Sanders and Warren) want taxpayers to assume the debts of students. Others want taxpayers to pay for 4 years of college for everyone else. Each Democrat has a different “plan”. Each plan is one step closer to a totalitarian society. The “argument” over plans among these thieves is over whom to pay off and whom to steal from. Also, how much to steal and by what means.

    On one side are the progressive-socialist-communist-democrats who favor as much big government total control as they can possibly inflict on everyone. On the other side are (or should be) reactionaries who favor strictly limited government (possibly none) and who would look upon dissolving the Constitution and going back to the Articles of Confederation as a great advance in our political system.



    Is this the promise that will beat Trump in 2020? Our buddy Bernie and our white Pocahontas seem to think so...
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Bernie, since were all such good friends I was wondering if I could use your island house for the weekend? Of course I won’t be paying to use it, you know we’re free.
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
    On the other side are (or should be) reactionaries who favor strictly limited government (possibly none) and who would look upon dissolving the Constitution
    Why am I not surprised...

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Why am I not surprised...


    Oh, you left out the rest of that sentence.
    The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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    To call these people "commies " is absolutely idiotic ! This has absolutely nothing to do with communism . Communism means a system of government were the state controls the entire economy, there is no free enterprise, no private corporations, no stock market , the government control agriculture, manufacturing, distribution of goods, service etc . And where there is no free speech , no freedom of religion , the clergy is suppressed , persecuted , imprisoned or executed etc .
    How could anyone be stupid enough to believe that democratic politicians who wan tot make college affordable and relieve college students and graduate of the terrible burden placed on them by student loan debt ?
    The democrats want to at east make college affordable . Why is it that in Germany and Scandinavia, which are CAPITALIST economies, college and even medical school are free ? Communism my foot !

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    Why is it that in Germany and Scandinavia, which are CAPITALIST economies, college and even medical school are free ?
    Because they're commies.
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    About all this student debt didn't these people know they had to pay back their loans and that they will likely pay a significant amount in interest? I find it hard to believe that these college students didn't have a clue that they would owe upwards of $100K after they graduated. It's terrible that they have so much debt and I put the blame on the people who pushed these kids to pursue degrees at very expensive university and colleges. Especially pursing degrees that historically do not lead to high paying jobs. This idea that college is the only way to get ahead in life is a terrible message being told to young people.
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    I, and most of my children, got through college before the huge inflation of tuition costs. This is a huge problem, albeit one that any reasonable person should have seen coming.

    it's not just 4-year colleges, either; huge tuition increases for technical schools are the norm. And every time big money is involved, scammers show up. Hence the great increase of for-profit colleges, many poorly accredited or not accredited at all. Our current education secretary was involved in one of those scams, in which she convinced the state of Michigan to go with her new ideas.

    She made Detroit schools worse. That's right; her company made them worse. Not surprisingly, when she got to be education secretary, she didn't forget where she came from...

    Investigations Into For-Profit College Abuses Dismantled Under Betsy DeVos
    May 15, 2018 update: Newly released documents obtained by Democracy Now suggest that former for-profit college official Robert Eitel -- now senior advisor to Education Department Secretary Betsy DeVos -- played a direct role in rolling back a rule designed to protect students defrauded by Eitel's former institution and other for-profit colleges. Eitel formerly worked for Bridgepoint Education, which in 2016 had to pay back tens of millions of dollars to students who were victims of deceptive loan practices. The documents appear to contradict the Education Department's assertion that former for-profit college officials hired by DeVos for top positions have not influenced department policy.

    The Department of Education “has effectively killed investigations” into possible fraud at several prominent for-profit colleges, according to the New York Times.

    These for-profit colleges, the paper reported, are places where the leading hires of Education Secretary Betsy DeVos used to work.

    Investigators at a special team at the Education Department have been reassigned, sidelined or told to concentrate on other work, current and former employees told the Times. The department has been whittled down from more than a dozen to just three people, who have been assigned to paperwork regarding student loan forgiveness.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/dianahe.../#7b1a4d57ce0a

    After WWII, a greatful America provided college at very low prices to the young men coming home. The result? An economy that boomed as they graduated and moved into jobs.

    Now we're reversing the process. Not a smart move.

    We need something like the GI Bill. Maybe four years of service in uniform, rebuilding infrastructure, in return for college tuition.

    If not, we can look forward to continued decline and companies like those DeVoss is backing to continue to defraud students trying to get an education.
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    I like the idea of college graduates being to work of their college debt through service if they so choose to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    I like the idea of college graduates being to work of their college debt through service if they so choose to.
    Working for money to pay off a debt... what a novel concept
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    I like the idea of college graduates being to work of their college debt through service if they so choose to.
    It's a great idea. There's nothing wrong with having to do a few years of service to the country in some fashion. The individual gets an education, and the country prospers from the service and from one more educated person in the workforce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Because they're commies.
    Pray tell , please tell me what is "communist" about Germany, the Scandinavian countries ? Do they persecute Christians ? Hell no ! Or followers of other religions ? Do they keep their citizens prisoners in their own countries ? Haven't you seen or European tourists in America? Or met Europeans who are living in the US ? Give me a break ! You obviously don't even know what communism is .

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    I like the idea of college graduates being to work of their college debt through service if they so choose to.
    loan debtors in default = 7 million

    length of proposed border wall with mexico = 1954 miles





    so it looks like if we have each defaultor build one and half feet of wall, it will be done

    easy peasey
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    FWIW, the amount is similar to the unaudited trillions given as bailouts to Wall Street bankers.

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