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    The Flood, what happened?

    What happened at the Flood, what forces where unleashed which only know are being understood in the immensity of its scale and power. Scientist are finding clues, but its a slow sledding as they say, as its tearing apart their favorite theory, evolution.

    Let’s take a look at Genesis 1:9-10:
    “9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good”, Genesis 1:9-10.

    God gathered the waters together into “one place,” separate from the dry land of Earth, where He put the Garden of Eden with Adam and Eve, with all the trees and plants and the animals. So what happened to the dry land of the earth and all the things on it, in Noah’s time? Geologists have stumbled across clues that allow them to begin reconstructing the sequence of events which happened from what can only the Biblical Flood. What survived the Flood makes it possible to begin putting together the puzzle, using what we know today of the earth’s surface plates. Evidence indicates that the continents were broken from one piece and moved around, and crashed against the other plates, but the core pieces seem to have survived.

    Geologists call the cores of these pieces “cratons” of which North America appears to be one of these cratons. They appear to have been joined together as one, as most scientist agree it was part of a major component of the earth’s supercontinent, but violent forces from below, unleashed during the Flood, tore them into many fragments.

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    Geologist Antonio Snider-Pellegrini in 1859, noticed the jigsaw puzzle fit of North and South America with Europe and Africa if the Atlantic Ocean basin were closed up. He also read Genesis in the Bible and realized that the landmass God formed on Day 3 of the Creation Week was probably a supercontinent, which broke apart during the Flood and a continental shift opened up today’s Atlantic Ocean. Thus was born the catastrophic plate tectonics model, which provides a physical mechanism for the Flood.

    Now lets read Genesis 7:11:
    “11 In the six hundredth year of Noah's life, in the second month, the seventeenth day of the month, the same day were all the fountains of the great deep broken up, and the windows of heaven were opened.” Genesis 7:11.

    At the start of the Flood the fountains of the deep were broken up ripping apart the pre-Flood supercontinent. When the original continent broke apart at the Flood, the pieces crashed, as the Tectonic plates shifted and produced today’s mountains. Today we see the continents which are the cores, formed out of pieces from the first supercontinent. Then if we look closer, we can find at the shore edges, where the sides were filled in by mud and sand that the Flood stripped from the earth’s surface.

    Reconstructing Noah’s world before the Flood is not easy, but we do have a reasonable picture form the clues of what happened at the catastrophic events of the Flood. Hot molten rock blasted the underside of the earth’s crust and it was ripped apart, and steam and molten rock shot out. It must have been a unbelievable scene, with exploding forces as we see when extremely hot lava hits water. Tsunamis from the shifting plates, pushing layers of rock and sand over the continents as we can see a places all over the earth like the Grand Canyon. Animals rushing for the high ground being bunched together and making tracks in the wet mud as they ran for their livers. With the water rising higher and higher till it covered the whole earth, and only those in the ark being spared.

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    it got wet

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    it got wet
    Yes it did, and things happened that scientist just cant explain with all their minds put together. The Bible is not the only place where the story of a worldwide Flood is told. Flood narratives are found in many cultures, and common threads run through all of them. The Biblical Flood account, with Noah as the central figure, is just one of them, written as a historic narrative. How could so many cultures and peoples have a universal flood story...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    it got wet
    Here is a good explanation to check out..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZrxogY9Pnc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie View Post
    ...but we do have a reasonable picture form the clues of what happened at the catastrophic events of the Flood. Hot molten rock blasted the underside of the earth’s crust and it was ripped apart, and steam and molten rock shot out. It must have been a unbelievable scene, with exploding forces as we see when extremely hot lava hits water. Tsunamis from the shifting plates, pushing layers of rock and sand over the continents as we can see a places all over the earth like the Grand Canyon. ...
    What version of Genesis do you have? Mine doesn't mention hot molten rock or tsunamis. Maybe I have the wrong translation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by chair View Post
    What version of Genesis do you have? Mine doesn't mention hot molten rock or tsunamis. Maybe I have the wrong translation?
    A 'reasonable picture'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie View Post
    A 'reasonable picture'.
    My reasonable picture has giant elephants spraying vast amounts of water over the earth...

    The text talks of rain and springs of the deep. not lava. For that you need to go to Sodom and Gomarrah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie View Post
    Yes it did, and things happened that scientist just cant explain with all their minds put together.
    Rather, the events of the flood are easily explainable, just not by people who are not willing to submit to the evidence.

    The Bible is not the only place where the story of a worldwide Flood is told. Flood narratives are found in many cultures, and common threads run through all of them. The Biblical Flood account, with Noah as the central figure, is just one of them, written as a historic narrative. How could so many cultures and peoples have a universal flood story...
    Here's how:

    To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. - Genesis 10:25 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...5&version=NKJV

    To Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg, for in his days the earth was divided; and his brother’s name was Joktan. - 1 Chronicles 1:19 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9&version=NKJV

    Which means, by implication, that before Peleg's lifetime, the earth was NOT divided.

    Meaning that the descendants of Noah's three sons would have spread out across the earth, taking with them the story of the flood.

    After the earth was divided, those groups would have been separated by water, and then it's just a matter of "Chinese Whispers," which we call "Telephone," a game in which a sentence or phrase becomes distorted by being passed along to the next person in a whisper.

    The reason almost every culture has a flood story is that all flood stories are variations on the one found in the Bible, just several generations removed.

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    There has been evidence of a flood in the Black Sea.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ws.archaeology

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bradley D View Post
    There has been evidence of a flood in the Black Sea.

    https://www.theguardian.com/science/...ws.archaeology
    There's lots of evidence for a flood literally everywhere on the planet (and a few places off-planet).
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
    E≈mc2
    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
    -Bob B.

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    Millions and billions of "sudden floods" have been occurring for millions of years all over the planet. That's how fossils are formed.

    The people who rejected and killed the Son of God also exaggerated their rather spectacular history known as The Old Testament.

    A much smaller, localized flood legend was exploited and used as a genealogical devise in an effort to establish religious authority as well as the chosen people arrogance.

    "Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil doing of his ancestors."UB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    Millions and billions of "sudden floods" have been occurring for millions of years
    Faulty premise.

    The earth (and the universe) is around 7000 years old.

    all over the planet. That's how fossils are formed.
    Rather, fossils are formed in this manner:

    https://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?p=5344083

    The people who rejected and killed the Son of God also exaggerated their rather spectacular history known as The Old Testament.

    A much smaller, localized flood legend was exploited and used as a genealogical devise in an effort to establish religious authority as well as the chosen people arrogance.
    This:

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    Now the flood was on the earth forty days. The waters increased and lifted up the ark, and it rose high above the earth.The waters prevailed and greatly increased on the earth, and the ark moved about on the surface of the waters.And the waters prevailed exceedingly on the earth, and all the high hills under the whole heaven were covered.The waters prevailed fifteen cubits upward, and the mountains were covered.And all flesh died that moved on the earth: birds and cattle and beasts and every creeping thing that creeps on the earth, and every man.All in whose nostrils was the breath of the spirit of life, all that was on the dry land, died.So He destroyed all living things which were on the face of the ground: both man and cattle, creeping thing and bird of the air. They were destroyed from the earth. Only Noah and those who were with him in the ark remained alive.And the waters prevailed on the earth one hundred and fifty days. - Genesis 7:17-24 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...4&version=NKJV


    is not an exaggeration, it's a historical, factual record, given TO MOSES, the author of Genesis, who did not live anywhere near the time of the flood, by God, who watched it all happen.

    In other words, by claiming that the above passage is not true, you're calling God a liar.

    You should repent, and take Him at His Word.
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    God didn't write the Bible books, imperfect humans did. That's why they contain so many errors.

    Book worshipers invented the false doctrine of the inerrancy of scripture in order too control the masses. So Christians are forced to make fools of themselves by parroting stories which they weren't to comfortable with to begin with.

    "Mortal man was never the property of the archdeceivers. Jesus did not die to ransom man from the clutch of the apostate rulers and fallen princes of the spheres. The Father in heaven never conceived of such crass injustice as damning a mortal soul because of the evil doing of his ancestors."UB

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caino View Post
    God didn't write the Bible books, imperfect humans did.
    "All scripture is given by inspiration of God."

    Given to whom?

    The about 40 authors of the books of the Bible.

    Challenge to you: Try getting 40 authors to write a cohesive storyline that has a good plot. Now try doing it over a period of 1650 years where none save the last few have any contact with each other.

    You'll never get anything resembling the Bible, because it's not possible without God.

    That's why they contain so many errors.
    The reason modern translations have "errors" is due to the fact that the translators and transcribers are fallen humans.

    The Scriptures were perfect in their original manuscripts. Any errors that exist today appeared in the copies made from those manuscripts.

    Book worshipers invented the false doctrine of the inerrancy of scripture
    I partly agree with this.

    But only partly.

    Again: The Scriptures were perfect in their original manuscripts. Any errors that exist today appeared in the copies made from those manuscripts.

    in order to control the masses.
    Now, you may have noticed, Caino, but conspiracy theories don't fly too well on this site.

    So Christians are forced to make fools of themselves
    Why?

    Why are Christians fools for accepting reality?

    by parroting stories which they weren't to comfortable with to begin with.
    The only people who are uncomfortable with the Bible are those who try to use it to their own advantage, rather than to God's glory.

    I am perfectly comfortable with everything in the Bible. I may not understand all of it, but that just motivates me to study it more, so that I can understand it.

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