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    Sandyhook still unanswered Questions

    Who of all y'all geniuses can actually answer any of these questions.....

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    Ask Alex Jones...

    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Disgusting how the conspiracy ghouls refuse to allow the parents and families of the Sandy Hook victims to grieve in peace.

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Disgusting how the conspiracy ghouls refuse to allow the parents and families of the Sandy Hook victims to grieve in peace.
    what, they're knocking on their doors?

    forcing them to listen?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    what, they're knocking on their doors?

    forcing them to listen?
    In effect, yes. Here's one mother's story, who lost her daughter at Sandy Hook:

    NELBA MARQUEZ-GREENE: We don't like to talk about this a lot because we do feel that it shifts the focus from our daughter and her life. But if I'm going to be honest, for five years, we have been subject to harassment, to death threats, to lies on the internet, suggesting that this thing that happened in Newtown didn't happen. And I know we're not the only ones. There are deniers of the Boston Massacre, of 9/11, of San Bernardino and many other tragedies.

    CORNISH: Nelba, I want to slow down for a minute because I think this is kind of hard to fathom for any person and especially any parent. What do you mean by harassment? Is this social media? Is this phone calls in the night? How does this happen?

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: It can include social media. It can include email. It can include in person. For my husband to go out and perform and be confronted at a concert...CORNISH: And he's a jazz musician, right?

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: Yes, so it's not like we can go back and hide under a rock somewhere. This is what we do for our livelihood. And he was playing in New York City. And he was on a set break. And someone came up to him and started by saying, you know, I'm just sorry for your loss. And then the second sentence was, but there are some things we need to talk about because there are some things that just don't add up. And he proceeded to list off the same rhetoric that Alex Jones espouses to my husband at a concert, at which point my husband got up - and he's 6-foot-6, and he's (laughter) a very large man. And the man scampered away. But this is not OK. I think about my safety and my son's safety all the time.

    CORNISH: Is this something where every time there's another shooting or massacre event, that it infuses new life into the conspiracy theorists coming after you?

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: You know, it's just - it does happen.

    CORNISH: Like, it doesn't fade, it sounds like.

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: Because Sandy Hook is less often in the news, it has faded in that sense. But you're right. Every time something comes up, every time we give light - we do this shine-a-light thing on Alex Jones and that kind of behavior and mentality - it's an uptick on our end.
    This week alone, I received a message from a woman who suggested that she - you know, she was sorry she had ever sent us money through the United Way because she understood now that every family involved in the Sandy Hook shooting had their mortgage paid off. And I'm like, what are you talking about? And she - you know, she - it's just a lot to deal with.

    CORNISH: How has this affected your grieving?

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: It interrupts the grief process. It's - the only thing worse than losing a child in a mass shooting in America is having to live the rest of your life defending that she's actually gone.

    CORNISH: And I know you're saying this as someone who knows a lot about therapy and the grieving process.

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: You know, two things that are essential for grief - for healthy grief and healthy process after the loss of a child are a sense of safety and a sense of control, which is why this particular type of behavior by Alex Jones is so incredibly harmful to families. You know, there are families whose pictures are used on these sites without permission to imply that they are actors. There are families whose pictures of children are used without permission to imply that their kids are still alive and actually in some underground tunnel. My heart is with the families of not just our tragedy but all of them.

    CORNISH: You also have a son. And how do you shield him from this?

    MARQUEZ-GREENE.: You know, after this week, I've discovered that I can't, that we actually did need to sit down. As a mother, my - and I'm sorry. I'm getting a little bit emotional. As a mother, it's the desire of my heart to keep him from this, right? It's already bad enough that he's involved in this. But you know, we do have to talk to him and have to say, you know, unfortunately, Son, there are people who believe that this didn't happen. And not only that - I need you to be prepared for the moment that one of these people comes to you. . .

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Disgusting how the conspiracy ghouls refuse to allow the parents and families of the Sandy Hook victims to grieve in peace.
    ok, so you're talking about a couple of morons who believe these people are lying, who believe these people are part of a conspiracy


    can you understand why people (especially morons) might believe this?

    are you familiar with the NYS-SAFE ACT, that my scumbag governor rammed through the legislature literally in the middle of the night, without public debate, in response to Sandy Hook?

    and to return to the woman you quoted - sorry, but that's the price you pay for being a public figure, especially in a situation as volatile as this one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    ok, so you're talking about a couple of morons who believe these people are lying, who believe these people are part of a conspiracy


    can you understand why people (especially morons) might believe this?

    are you familiar with the NYS-SAFE ACT, that my scumbag governor rammed through the legislature literally in the middle of the night, without public debate, in response to Sandy Hook?

    and to return to the woman you quoted - sorry, but that's the price you pay for being a public figure, especially in a situation as volatile as this one

    ^^ When people with psychopathy imagine others experiencing pain, brain regions associated with empathy and concern for others fail to activate or connect with brain areas involved in emotional processing and decision-making, researchers report.

    In addition to a lack of remorse, psychopathy is characterized by shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.
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    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    So you're admitting that you exhibit characteristics of antisocial personality disorder?


    quelle surprise

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    These plagiarized questions have answers posted at:
    http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.co...asked-and.html

    They are below, in color.

    1. Who directed the New Haven FBI field offices to classify the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting on Dec 14, 2012?


    2. Why and for what reason would the FBI classify the Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting when they did not classify the Columbine shooting which also was a Mass casualty shooting incident?
    Any thinking person knows that the question regarding an FBI procedure is not addressed to Connecticut State Police (CSP). The FBI does not report to the Connecticut State Police. Who runs the FBI and tells them what to do? We can all speculate; however, none could fairly claim that the answer is "police officers in Connecticut".

    Back on point, this question is basically a "who and why" of the same question and are answered together, thus:

    The answer is Book 2 Document 182743.

    CSP did a FOIA request to get the FBI report for themselves. The FBI, through Special Agent Kimberly Mertz, responded to the request on July 23, 2013. A notification from the FBI dated July 18, 2013 advised CSP that the FBI was releasing 109 pages of 173 pages of their report pursuant to FOIPA Title 5, US Code 552/552a.

    The FBI included a notification that there are three discrete categories of law enforcement and national security records that are excluded from FOIA as in USC 5 552(c) .

    All 109 pages of the FBI report that the State Police received are INCLUDED in the report, downloaded as the above listed document. In other words, the FBI report is in fact, not entirely classified, and has already been released and may be freely downloaded and reviewed. Yes, it is heavily redacted; however, that is the FBI, not CSP.

    64 pages are classified. How much does the FBI do in 64 pages? I would think... very little.

    Moreover, that has nothing to do with Connecticut or the CSP, who were equally denied access to those 64 pages. Who in or above the FBI decided to classify the 64 pages? Who knows! But the question is not for Connecticut.

    The fact is, the FBI had little to do with the investigation of Sandy Hook. This was a state run operation.

    The Sandy Hook report FBI report is freely available.


    3. Who on Dec 14, 2012 was the Incident Commander as required by the Federal Emergency Management Administration in directing the Mass Casualty Shooting Incident at the Sandy Hook Elementary School?
    Major Brian Meraviglia, the Western District Commander, was the commander of the crime scene, once a command center was formally established.
    This is according to Book 6 # 95772 Family Liaison report/assignments by Capt Dale Hourigan



    4. Who and Why did they not request the Life Star Helicopters knowing that children and school staff are seriously injured and clinging to life?
    Four wounded people were transported by ambulance. The premise of the question is incorrect because the report is clear, the rest were dead.

    Halbig needs to clarify his question because there were no others "clinging to life". Who is he talking about here?


    5. Who and Why did they not allow the Paramedics and the EMTíS inside the Sandy Hook School to treat the seriously injured or those children and school staff clinging to life?
    See above.

    6. Who declared all 18 children and six school staff members legally dead within the first 8 minutes?

    The premise is incorrect because no one declared all those people dead in the first 8 minutes.

    While technically, that answer would suffice to answer Halbig's poorly worded question, for the sake of clarity, I will pretend he asked a relevant question concerning the legal/procedural aspects of the triage of the casualties.

    The legal presumptions of death were made by Cassevechia, Reed, and Meehan, using the SMART Triage System protocols; performing four different assessments on each patient prioritizing them based on their apparent injuries.

    Cassevechia maintained phone contact and operated as the senior medical person on scene. The paramedics triaged the casualties operating on the legal authority granted by Dr. Pat Broderick, Danbury Hospital.

    See Book 6: 2113, 2358, 19275


    7. Who was the Certified Environmental Bio-Hazard Decontamination company contracted by the Newtown Public Schools to remove 45Ė65 gallons of blood, skull fragments, brain tissues, bodily fluids, blood soaked carpets and any other decontaminated are a inside the Sandy Hook School?
    Clean Harbors, Inc cleaned Sandy Hook as listed in Book 2 198991.
    Aftermath Specialists did Yogananda. Book 2 198985


    8. Why does an off duty Lt from the Newtown Police Department refuse to leave his off duty work assignment at a construction site on Dec 14, 2012 when hearing that shots have been fired at the Sandy Hook Elementary School?
    Again, Halbig's premise is incorrect. He was not "off -duty". Book 4 79290.

    He was doing an "extra duty" assignment. The public record of this shows he received a written reprimand for failing to respond (Google). I would ask, how is this relevant? He was derelict, no matter what the answer is. Some people in any place of employment are derelict. He is one.


    9. Who at the Newtown Public Schools notified all of the parents in writing as required by CT law that had children attending the Sandy Hook Elementary School as well as every school staff member every school year of all the potential life threatening chemical hazards. The school had high levels of lead paint throughout the entire school, Asbestos in the ceiling time and floor tile, asbestos in the insulation and most of all the school had very high levels of PCB?
    The School Facility report for that time period is available and easily found with the magic called "Google", without the need for donations. The summary is posted here:

    http://newtown.schooldesk.net/Portal...NDY%20HOOK.pdf

    The notification to parents was made at least by handbook for the immediate proceeding year.
    http://newtown.sandyhook.schooldesk....%3D&tabid=8068

    Page 28 has the required notice. The school appears compliant with the law in terms of safety, reports, and notifications. CT dot Gov website also has their specific requirements. My feeling is Halbig did not research this issue on his own.

    Internet postings found by Google indicate that that was the Handbook linked to Schooldesk.net at the time of the shooting.


    10. Who provided the urgent medical care to the two children who were not transported to the Danbury Trauma Center until an hour after the school was deemed safe for that 15-mile drive?

    Unit: NEWTA2 Paramedic Robert Velleteri w/Marty Folan and John Burke female juvi treated with ALS (Advanced Life Support).
    Unit: NEWTA3 - Paramedic Daniel Bradley w/Kenneth Lerman and Laurie Lerman
    BLS to adult female (Hammond) and ALS to boy.

    Book 2- 260162



    11. Who treated those two children who had been shot multiple times like three to 11 times since they did not allow the paramedics and EMTíS inside the Sandy Hook Elementary School?
    I suppose I could fairly answer this question with "Huh?" But since I can reasonably guess at what he is saying, I will give it a try, even though it is based on a faulty premise.


    Inside the school, triaging the victims were:

    two EMTs: Sgt William Cario amd TFC Patrick Dragon
    one Registered Nurse: William Blumenthal
    three Paramedics: Director of Danbury EMS Paramedic Matthew Cassevechia, and two Tactical Paramedics, John Reed and Bernie Meehan.

    All of their statements are in Book 6. My Guide to the Report can be used to find their reports.


    12. Why did the parents of the two children who died at the Danbury hospital not allow their children to donate their organs to other children waiting for the gift of life?
    This is a disgusting, irrelevant question to ask the parents of deceased children. Further, the answer is beyond the scope of any rational police investigation. What kind of question is this?

    How do you know they were asked to donate organs? How do you know they didn't? How do you know if murder victims can donate organs before autopsy or how that plays into it? I won't waste my time on this question because it is completely lacking a rational foundation.


    13. What happened to the 500 children and 60 school staff members from Sandy Hook Elementary School on Dec 14, 2012?
    While one can imagine an almost unlimited response to this question, to keep it focused on the immediate scene, the survivors were evacuated. The evacuation is documented in dozens of sworn statements in Books 4 and 6. Please read the report and ask a specific question that can be answered with specifics.


    14. Who was the police officer calling into the Newtown Police dispatcher stating in his words that he has multiple weapons, he has a rifle and a shotgun and who has the rifle and the shotgun as the chain of evidence should show that was found in classroom eight (8)?
    Again, your premise is incorrect; you misstate the officers words here and in every embellished interview you give.

    However, the report timeline documents that this officer's name was Officer Leonard Penna.

    See Book 4 -184096


    15. Why would a police officer by the name of Lt Vangehle at 9:45:21 am on Dec 14, 2012 from the Newtown Police Department after finding a kindergarten female child in the hallway make her go into room eight (8) and leave her? Room eight is a gruesome crime scene with dead children and school staff. Why?
    See Venghele, Bahamonde, and Penna's statements. At the time of this incident, none of the officers had been in Room 8, they were unaware there are deceased in Room 8, and were training weapons in the direction of the girl and operating in Active Shooter formation and under those protocols.

    Book 6 2060, 44171, and 258086
    The interaction may be heard in Rick Thorne's 911 call.


    16. Why would two CT State Troopers enter room ten (10) at 9:55:31 am on Dec 14, 2012 which is a gruesome crime scene with dead bodies of children and school staff and tell a kindergarten boy who they find in the bathroom whoís name is redacted and tell them so it must be more than one to stay and they will be both back when it is safe?
    Again, your premise is flawed and your English poor. You failed to read the report.

    The account of the FIRST GRADE Boy and Girl hiding in the restroom are documented by their rescuer, TFC Smith in Book 6 47345

    He is documented as running out with the survivors in Davis' Dash Cam at 0957:18. This is listed in the timeline Book 4 184096 and the time line of Davis' Dash Cam Book 3 55705.

    There was no delay in their rescue and they did not wait until the scene was "safe" to rescue them.


    Obviously the comments from that website are addressed to the actual author of those question, not the person who cut and pasted them here.
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    Let's say that I suffer from a delusion. I will call this delusion "Fact-check Syndrome." I respond by citing facts.

    Most people online don't want to be corrected. They do not care about anything that does not agree with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    ^^ When people with psychopathy imagine others experiencing pain, brain regions associated with empathy and concern for others fail to activate or connect with brain areas involved in emotional processing and decision-making, researchers report.

    In addition to a lack of remorse, psychopathy is characterized by shallow affect, glibness, manipulation and callousness.
    Other traits also; self obsession to the point of narcissism and a pathological need for attention and to be noticed. Sometimes it's the latter that gives the less subtle ones away.
    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    tell me artie, why are you inserting yourself into a converrsation bettween me and anna?

    could it be that you have a
    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    ... pathological need for attention and to be noticed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    tell me artie, why are you inserting yourself into a converrsation bettween me and anna?
    Tell me, doser, why are you being a thread nanny?

    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Tell me, doser, why are you being a thread nanny?
    He doesn't seem to have gotten that he's on ignore and my reply was solely to you. Psychopathy, or perhaps overall and to be more generous, just a lack of the ability to cognitively reason and prone to gullibility, certainly seem to underpin a lot of this conspiracy garbage about Sandy Hook but it does the victims of this massacre no favours whatsoever. Just look at the source in the OP...

    Well this is fun isn't it?


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    Quote Originally Posted by annabenedetti View Post
    Tell me, doser, why are you being a thread nanny?
    tell me anna, why are you being a hypocrite?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    These plagiarized questions have answers posted at:
    http://sandyhookanalysis.blogspot.co...asked-and.html

    They are below, in color. (in a jumbled mess of formatting, so i deleted all of it - doser)
    a third of the way in you identify a "Halbig" - a quick google search shows "Wolfgang Halbig", who is, apparently, an insignificant nobody who has been magnified by the attention given him by people like anna and barbie

    maybe you guys should stop doing that

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