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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie View Post
    Then you must not have read...

    Matthew 5:19

    Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.

    1 John 2:3
    And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.


    1 John 2:4
    He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.



    1 John 3:22
    And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.



    1 John 3:24
    And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.


    1 John 5:2
    By this we know that we love the children of God, when we love God, and keep his commandments.
    See? This is what I'm talking about.

    You're so caught up in your own argument that you don't even realize that your prooftexts fall in line with everything I'm saying.

    Everything in 1 John was written to the Jews.

    And I gave you a verse that has Jesus stating clearly that He was sent only to the house of Israel.

    Thank you for conceding the discussion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    See? This is what I'm talking about.

    You're so caught up in your own argument that you don't even realize that your prooftexts fall in line with everything I'm saying.

    Everything in 1 John was written to the Jews.

    And I gave you a verse that has Jesus stating clearly that He was sent only to the house of Israel.

    Thank you for conceding the discussion.
    There were no Jews at Creation, or when Cain killed Abel, so if sin is the transgression of Gods law, it was there.


    Genesis 4:6-8
    6 And the Lord said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
    7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
    8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.


    Genesis 13:13
    But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the Lord exceedingly.

    Genesis 18:20
    And the Lord said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hobie View Post
    There were no Jews at Creation, or when Cain killed Abel, so if sin is the transgression of Gods law, it was there.
    Somehow you lost me.

    What in the world do Cain and Abel have to do with Jesus coming only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Somehow you lost me.

    What in the world do Cain and Abel have to do with Jesus coming only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel?
    He did not just come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    But as Jesus stated
    John 10:16
    And other sheep I have,
    which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
    and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
    and one shepherd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioy1273 View Post
    He did not just come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    But as Jesus stated
    John 10:16
    And other sheep I have,
    which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
    and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
    and one shepherd.
    So you're gonna call Jesus a liar then? You're going to assert that He contradicted Himself?

    Because those words in Matthew 15 are Jesus' words:

    Then Jesus went out from there and departed to the region of Tyre and Sidon.And behold, a woman of Canaan came from that region and cried out to Him, saying, “Have mercy on me, O Lord, Son of David! My daughter is severely demon-possessed.”But He answered her not a word. And His disciples came and urged Him, saying, “Send her away, for she cries out after us.”But He answered and said, “I was not sent except to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.”Then she came and worshiped Him, saying, “Lord, help me!”But He answered and said, “It is not good to take the children’s bread and throw it to the little dogs.” - Matthew 15:21-26 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...6&version=NKJV

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    Quote Originally Posted by ioy1273 View Post
    He did not just come for the lost sheep of Israel.

    But as Jesus stated
    John 10:16
    And other sheep I have,
    which are not of this fold: them also I must bring,
    and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold,
    and one shepherd.
    Amen

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