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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    Democracy: Where criminality is based on a man's popularity.
    The founding fathers recognized that democracy MUST be informed by Christian values

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    The founding fathers recognized that democracy MUST be informed by Christian values
    And it must not be "pure democracy"... i.e., direct democracy. Hence something like the Electoral College.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    And it must not be "pure democracy"... i.e., direct democracy. Hence something like the Electoral College.
    Hence something like an elected representative congress....AKA A democratic republic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foxfire View Post
    Hence something like an elected representative congress....AKA A democratic republic.
    Indeed... anything but pure majority rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Right Divider View Post
    And it must not be "pure democracy"... i.e., direct democracy. Hence something like the Electoral College.
    When I took government in college the topic of the Electoral College never came up. I have been voting in the Presidential election from 1968 to the present and not once did the Electoral College come up. Now I discover that my votes during all those years meant NOTHING!!
    at 70, I must say, I’m a bit pissed off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jamesdyson View Post
    When I took government in college the topic of the Electoral College never came up. I have been voting in the Presidential election from 1968 to the present and not once did the Electoral College come up. Now I discover that my votes during all those years meant NOTHING!!
    at 70, I must say, I’m a bit pissed off.
    It seems that you are very confused about how that system works and why it's vitally important.

    This one explains it pretty well: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6s7jB6-GoU
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    The problem is that democracy is guaranteed to end in genocide.
    The thing about a quote like that is that the parameters make it impossible to reject, even though it has no inherently demonstrable truth to it.

    Beyond that, my country is a republic. That is, we were founded on democratic principles with restraints to make the worst impulse of a swayable mob less likely to pull us into ruin.
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    The problem is that democracy is guaranteed to end in genocide.
    Of course. Look at the genocides in history. Nazi Germany. Soviet Union. Cambodia. Rwanda. Armenia. Dafur. Bosnia.

    All of them perpetrated by governments that were democracies.

    Er, wait...

    Well, think of all the democracies that committed genocide. Ahhh..there's... (never mind)

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    Beyond that, my country is a republic. That is, we were founded on democratic principles with restraints to make the worst impulse of a swayable mob less likely to pull us into ruin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    The thing about a quote like that is that the parameters make it impossible to reject, even though it has no inherently demonstrable truth to it.
    You can't reject it, but it's not true. Talk about 1984.

    Name a democracy that is not either practicing mass murder or headed that way.

    My country is a republic. That is, we were founded on democratic principles with restraints to make the worst impulse of a swayable mob less likely to pull us into ruin.
    So maybe you're headed down the toilet a little more slowly than anyone else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Barbarian View Post
    Of course. Look at the genocides in history. Nazi Germany. Soviet Union. Cambodia. Rwanda. Armenia. Dafur. Bosnia.

    All of them perpetrated by governments that were democracies.
    Typical evolutionist. Has no concept of simple logic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stripe View Post
    You can't reject it, but it's not true. Talk about 1984.
    Rather, the proposition you proffered was open ended, as I noted. Given it has no definable end point it can never be proven to be wrong or true, even if there is no evidence of it in the present and regardless of how much time has passed.

    Name a democracy that is not either practicing mass murder or headed that way.
    "Headed that way," has the same problem, but the word you used was genocide. Now it's a less particular phrase, "mass murder." If you're Amish that would be war. If you're against abortion, it's abortion. If you're radical enough as environmentalists go it's larger still. If you're a Buddhist...just about any civilization in just about every age.

    In any event, none of it is genocide and any of the other points relies on a subjective valuation that runs into problems. No democracy is practicing mass murder. No state is taking anyone out and murdering them, or even taking their lives without due process, if then.

    So maybe you're headed down the toilet a little more slowly than anyone else.
    And we're back to the first problem, supra.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Town Heretic View Post
    No democracy is practicing mass murder.
    Yours is.
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    How many children murdered since roe v wade?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    How many children murdered since roe v wade?
    A million a year, or thereabouts.

    But don't worry, it's not a genocide.
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