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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do not know what it is that you are talking about.
    Everything we spread about God and Jesus ought to be the Truth, not man-made doctrines.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Everything we spread about God and Jesus ought to be the Truth, not man-made doctrines.
    True.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I have accepted Jesus in my life so I don't need to depend upon philosophy . . .

    Absolute truth is different from relative truth.
    Amen (Colossians 2:8).

    People who know that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ and the human/divine Son of God, and who believe that the entire Bible is from God, know the absolute truth (John 14:6, John 20:31; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; 2 Timothy 3:15 to 4:4), whereas people who reject Jesus Christ and the Bible are deluded, and taken captive spiritually by Satan (2 Timothy 2:26; 2 Corinthians 4:4, Revelation 12:9), no matter how right and practically-good their current, false religion or atheism may seem to them (Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 28:26, Jeremiah 17:9). If they do not get saved by becoming Biblical Christians, then they will end up in eternal suffering in the lake of fire and brimstone, along with Satan and his fallen angels (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11, Mark 9:45b-46).

    Also, it should be pointed out that when Christians are granted God's miraculous gift of faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8, John 6:65; 1 Corinthians 3:5b), they do not abandon reason/logic, but also accept God's reason/logic, which is far more excellent than human reason/logic on its own (Isaiah 55:8-9, Isaiah 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:4-5,12-16). Human reason/logic (human wisdom) on its own is infinitesimal (cf. Isaiah 40:17) and foolishness compared with God's reason/logic (God's wisdom). And yet human wisdom on its own is so proud that it considers God's wisdom to be foolishness (1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 1 Corinthians 2:14).

    Human reason/logic can convince people that they are on the right path, when in fact they are not (Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 16:25). For example, Hitler and his tens of millions of followers were convinced that their reason/logic had placed them on the right path, when in fact all it did is place them and millions of others on the path of an early death. That is, not only did it result in the slaughter of millions of Nazi soldiers and civilians, but also millions of Jews and others in the Holocaust, and all of the tens of millions of other non-Nazi people who died in the battles and bombings during World War II. Similarly, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot thought that their atheistic reason/logic had placed them and their nations on the right path, when in fact all it did is result in the horrible suffering and early death of millions of their own people.

    And the atheistic Chinese Communist Party is now tyrannizing the precious Chinese People, and will lead them into utter ruin.

    May God help the People.

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Everything we spread about God and Jesus ought to be the Truth, not man-made doctrines.
    That sure sounds like a man-made doctrine to me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    What is sin leading to death?

    1 John 5:16-17 NASB
    16 If anyone sees his brother committing a sin not leading to death, he shall ask and God will for him give life to those who commit sin not leading to death. There is a sin leading to death; I do not say that he should make request for this.
    17 All unrighteousness is sin, and there is a sin not leading to death.

    Can we pray for believers or non-believers who commit sin leading to death?

    Hi and I say that 1 John 5:16 , 17 do not apply to the Body of Christ !!

    During the ministry of Paul and written in 1 Cor 5:5 we have the PERFECT EXAMPLE of the sin unto DEATH !!

    In verse one , one having sex of his father !!

    In verse 2 , are PUFFED UP and refuse to remove that son from the assembly !!

    In verse 3 Paul shows HOW MUCH AUTHORITY Paul had as in being chosen by Christ !!

    In verse 5 sentences that son , by delivering him to SATAN for the DEATH OF THE FLESH !!

    Is that person saved , I believe so , and Paul writes on , in order that the spirit MAY BE SAVED , in the DAY OF THE LORD , and read Phil 1:6 !!

    The main reason to boot this son out is explained in verse 6 as a little SIN CORRUPTS THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY !!

    dan p

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    Quote Originally Posted by bibleverse2 View Post
    Amen (Colossians 2:8).

    People who know that Jesus of Nazareth is the Christ and the human/divine Son of God, and who believe that the entire Bible is from God, know the absolute truth (John 14:6, John 20:31; 1 Corinthians 15:1-4; 2 Timothy 3:15 to 4:4), whereas people who reject Jesus Christ and the Bible are deluded, and taken captive spiritually by Satan (2 Timothy 2:26; 2 Corinthians 4:4, Revelation 12:9), no matter how right and practically-good their current, false religion or atheism may seem to them (Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 28:26, Jeremiah 17:9). If they do not get saved by becoming Biblical Christians, then they will end up in eternal suffering in the lake of fire and brimstone, along with Satan and his fallen angels (Matthew 25:41,46, Revelation 20:10,15, Revelation 14:10-11, Mark 9:45b-46).

    Also, it should be pointed out that when Christians are granted God's miraculous gift of faith in Jesus Christ (Ephesians 2:8, John 6:65; 1 Corinthians 3:5b), they do not abandon reason/logic, but also accept God's reason/logic, which is far more excellent than human reason/logic on its own (Isaiah 55:8-9, Isaiah 1:18; 1 Corinthians 2:4-5,12-16). Human reason/logic (human wisdom) on its own is infinitesimal (cf. Isaiah 40:17) and foolishness compared with God's reason/logic (God's wisdom). And yet human wisdom on its own is so proud that it considers God's wisdom to be foolishness (1 Corinthians 1:18-21; 1 Corinthians 2:14).

    Human reason/logic can convince people that they are on the right path, when in fact they are not (Proverbs 14:12, Proverbs 16:25). For example, Hitler and his tens of millions of followers were convinced that their reason/logic had placed them on the right path, when in fact all it did is place them and millions of others on the path of an early death. That is, not only did it result in the slaughter of millions of Nazi soldiers and civilians, but also millions of Jews and others in the Holocaust, and all of the tens of millions of other non-Nazi people who died in the battles and bombings during World War II. Similarly, Stalin, Mao, and Pol Pot thought that their atheistic reason/logic had placed them and their nations on the right path, when in fact all it did is result in the horrible suffering and early death of millions of their own people.

    And the atheistic Chinese Communist Party is now tyrannizing the precious Chinese People, and will lead them into utter ruin.

    May God help the People.
    Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DAN P View Post
    Hi and I say that 1 John 5:16 , 17 do not apply to the Body of Christ !!

    During the ministry of Paul and written in 1 Cor 5:5 we have the PERFECT EXAMPLE of the sin unto DEATH !!

    In verse one , one having sex of his father !!

    In verse 2 , are PUFFED UP and refuse to remove that son from the assembly !!

    In verse 3 Paul shows HOW MUCH AUTHORITY Paul had as in being chosen by Christ !!

    In verse 5 sentences that son , by delivering him to SATAN for the DEATH OF THE FLESH !!

    Is that person saved , I believe so , and Paul writes on , in order that the spirit MAY BE SAVED , in the DAY OF THE LORD , and read Phil 1:6 !!

    The main reason to boot this son out is explained in verse 6 as a little SIN CORRUPTS THE WHOLE ASSEMBLY !!

    dan p
    I thought it said with his father's wife.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I thought it said with his father's wife.
    Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patrick jane View Post
    Nope.
    I just read it before responding and that is what it says.

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    The sin leading to death is unbelief in Jesus Christ and who He said He was.
    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

    Jim Elliot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bright Raven View Post
    The sin leading to death is unbelief in Jesus Christ and who He said He was.
    Agreed.

    Unrepentant unbelief.
    "The immutable God never learned anything and never changed his mind. He knew everything from eternity."

    " The difference between faith and saving faith are the propositions believed."
    Gordon H. Clark

    "If a man be lost, God must not have the blame for it; but if a man be saved, God must have the glory of it."
    Charles Spurgeon

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    Unforgivable sin is professed Christians or organizations who are spreading the false gospel about God and Jesus.

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    Including yourself?






    No, no - of course not - what was I thinking?

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    The sin leading to death or a sin leading to death?

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    Quote Originally Posted by meshak View Post
    Unforgivable sin is professed Christians or organizations who are spreading the false gospel about God and Jesus.
    Unforgivable sin is that hat

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