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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    They can attack prison personnel, escape ... OR if released, go on to murder again.
    Again, this is an argument for better prisons - not an argument for killing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Again, this is an argument for better prisons - not an argument for killing.
    There is no better defense against a murderer than obliterating their ability to do harm. The DP is the only response that would achieve that goal.
    Power is neither good nor evil. It just is. It's what people do with power that matters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    There is no better defense against a murderer than obliterating their ability to do harm. The DP is the only response that would achieve that goal.
    Same could be said for any crime. Heck, we could end all crime by executing all people right now. Should we do it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Same could be said for any crime. Heck, we could end all crime by executing all people right now. Should we do it?
    would that serve justice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Physically prevented from attacking anyone.
    by what means?

    execution seems to me to be the best one

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    would that serve justice?
    Nope. Neither does killing a man to prevent a future crime he may or may not commit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Nope. Neither does killing a man to prevent a future crime he may or may not commit.
    that's not the primary reason you kill him - you execute him through a judicial process to serve justice

    preventing a known murderer from having the opportunity to murder again is just a bonus

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    that's not the primary reason you kill him - you execute him through a judicial process to serve justice

    preventing a known murderer from having the opportunity to murder again is just a bonus
    Ah, I see that was Rusha's argument for it - not yours.

    As for the justice argument, are you saying the death penalty is the only just punishment for a murderer? And why so? Why wouldn't life imprisonment be a just punishment?
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    Imprisonment is not of God's Law, and is thus inherently unjust

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Imprisonment is not of God's Law, and is thus inherently unjust
    Then you're against imprisonment for any crime?
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    Yes

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
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    Interesting. What do you propose should be done with criminals?
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    Financial restitution and corporal punishment

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Financial restitution and corporal punishment
    How about exile for capital offenses?
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    Exile to six feet under?

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