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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I don't support it without 100% proof of guilt and then only for murder, rape, child molestation, certainly not for infidelity or being gay. In addition, those convicted of the first three where there's still any slight room for doubt should be sentenced to life in maximum security prison.
    What good does it accomplish, even if with 100% proof of guilt?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truster View Post
    And Yah Shua came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".

    "I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades".
    Even death apart from the death penalty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I don't support it without 100% proof of guilt and then only for murder, rape, child molestation, certainly not for infidelity or being gay. In addition, those convicted of the first three where there's still any slight room for doubt should be sentenced to life in maximum security prison.
    Is there such a thing as a lesser crime?

    There are crimes that warrant the death penalty according to your view.

    What about crimes that you do not view as as heinous? A lesser punishment? Or, no punishment at all?

    Certainly the innocent should not be proven guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Horn View Post
    U.S. states without the death penalty have lower murder rates than those with it .
    correlation and causation

    look it up


    It's not a deterrent to murder and has never been one .
    it's the only way to guarantee that a murderer won't murder again


    Every European country abolished it long ago and their murder rates don't even come remotely close to those in America .
    how many of them have a significant population of young negro males murdering other young negro males?


    There's also the risk of executing innocent people .
    and there's the risk of imprisoning innocent people

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    how many of them have a significant population of young negro males murdering other young negro males?
    Huh? I do not even know what you just said.


    and there's the risk of imprisoning innocent people
    Prison is not just if the penalty should have been death. And I do not know if the Law has been abolished. The innocent should not be put behind bars or executed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Huh? I do not even know what you just said.

    The vast majority of murders in the US are young black men murdering other young black men - a phenomenon that exists in no European country, which makes comparisons between the US and European countries spurious at best and intentionally dishonest at worst

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    What good does it accomplish, even if with 100% proof of guilt?
    A dead murderer cannot reoffend.
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    Easy to break, Easy to lose
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    A dead murderer cannot reoffend.
    Neither can a properly confined one.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Neither can a properly confined one.
    Properly does not equate to 100 percent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Properly does not equate to 100 percent.
    Then that's an argument for better prisons. Not an argument for killing.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Then that's an argument for better prisons. Not an argument for killing.
    No. There is no good reason to give heinous criminals the opportunity to reoffend.

    Example: Larry Singleton.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Neither can a properly confined one.
    Define "properly confined"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    Define "properly confined"
    Physically prevented from attacking anyone.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    Quote Originally Posted by glassjester View Post
    Physically prevented from attacking anyone.
    They can attack prison personnel, escape ... OR if released, go on to murder again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    No. There is no good reason to give heinous criminals the opportunity to reoffend.

    Example: Larry Singleton.
    I agree.
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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