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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post




    because reasons
    Where does fzappa13 come from here? I don't see that in this thread but I wonder where it came from and why? At least why did you include it here? Thanks.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post




    because reasons
    You quoted someone else so yes they can see this thread, but as for the content I finally followed your post. Interesting thread title.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    In general what sin law crime crimes are is punished or penalized in the world? Yes, people have different laws.

    For example, for homosexuality we have the Torah and Judaism, Christianity which includes the New Testament, and Islam with Sharia Law. Just learned about that.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Is a person's reason, such as myself, for being in support of the Law of Moses even while I know Jesus because of my sin? Because Jesus forgives sin and sins, but I feel that I must be guilty enough to go through punishment or receive penalty. Otherwise would preaching the Law help others to know the Law so that they don't transgress it or so that they learn that they have done so?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Is a person's reason, such as myself, for being in support of the Law of Moses even while I know Jesus because of my sin? Because Jesus forgives sin and sins, but I feel that I must be guilty enough to go through punishment or receive penalty. Otherwise would preaching the Law help others to know the Law so that they don't transgress it or so that they learn that they have done so?
    Jesus spoke positively about the Law.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    So Jesus did not come to abolish the Law.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Has the Law been abolished?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Romans 3:19 NASB - 19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Romans 3:19 NASB - 19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;
    "those who are under the Law,"

    Is that Israel or sinners?
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
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    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    "those who are under the Law,"

    Is that Israel or sinners?
    In the context, sinners are being talked about. But this takes away from the idea that the Law was just for Israel combined with the idea that the only people that could be under the Law was Israel.
    Bereishit - Genesis - Chapter 1

    1 In the beginning of God's creation of the heavens and the earth.
    :א בְּרֵאשִׁ֖ית בָּרָ֣א אֱלֹהִ֑ים אֵ֥ת הַשָּׁמַ֖יִם וְאֵ֥ת הָאָֽרֶץ

    in beginning he created gods the heavens and the earth

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