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    Is Pete Buttigieg Really a Christian?

    Pete Buttigieg is a member of an Episcopal Church, the Cathedral Church of St. James in South Bend, Indiana.

    Buttigieg, who talks often about his faith on the campaign trail, has said he wants a “more inclusive and more humane vision of faith than what this vice president represents.”

    “When I’m in church, the scripture I hear is about taking care of the least among us,” he told DeGeneres, who is also gay. "It’s a message that is fundamentally about love, love and humility, humbling yourself before God and putting other people before you."

    According to the doctrinal statement of the Episcopal Church both the Old Testament Scriptures and the New "were written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."

    https://www.episcopalchurch.org/bible

    Despite the verses which condemn homosexuality Pete Buttigieg is married to another male and is proud of that marriage. He talks about hearing the message of love in his church but perhaps he is unaware of the teachings found in the Scriptures which condemn homosexuality:

    "Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination"
    (Lev.18:22).

    "If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them"
    (Lev.20:13).

    "For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet" (Ro.1:26-27).

    Why does Pete Buttigieg continue to be a member of an Episcopal Church which says that the Scriptures are inspired by the Holy Spirit and those Scriptures condemn homosexuality but yet he glories in his homosexual marriage?

    Like I have said many times on this forum, the Democrats are the largest group of hypocrites on the face of the earth.

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    Funny post. Buttigieg says he is a Christian ... I have no reason not to believe him. Unless he appears on an Access Hollywood tape bragging about how his celebrity status allows him to commit sexual assault OR pays a porn star hush money to hide an adulterous affair, I will continue to believe him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Funny post. Buttigieg says he is a Christian ... I have no reason not to believe him. Unless he appears on an Access Hollywood tape bragging about how his celebrity status allows him to commit sexual assault OR pays a porn star hush money to hide an adulterous affair, I will continue to believe him.
    Then you obviously know nothing at all about Christianity. God forgives those who repent of their sins. Repentance means to both be sorry for your sins and to make a pledge to never do them again . Homosexual activity is a grievous sin & an abomination and this fool Buttigieg has neither the intention nor the desire of repenting of it. In fact I doubt if he even thinks it is a sin . He chooses to live in sin, he has no intention of repenting, therefore he is not forgiven and he is not a Christian. That is very simple. Only a fool who votes for Democrats could think otherwise.

    Democrats = The party of infanticide, sexual perversion and socialism. That is not an opinion, that is a stone cold fact . Facts don't care about your feelings

    You have been refuted absolutely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry Shugart View Post
    Is Pete Buttigieg Really a Christian?

    an unrepentant sinner?

    nope

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Funny post. Buttigieg says he is a Christian ...
    If he is born again he would actually believe what the Scriptures teach about homosexuality.

    Therefore, there is not a chance that he is born again no matter what he may call himself.

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    Pete’s doing fairly well in the polls. GO PETE! America needs an upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Pete’s doing fairly well in the polls. GO PETE! America needs an upgrade.
    Wow. A homosexual socialist is a upgrade for you? Your standards are not too high are they.

    I will stick with the greatest jobs and economy president in 50 years, Donald J. Trump.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    an unrepentant sinner?

    nope
    Apparently, he doesn't read the Scriptures.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Berean View Post
    Apparently, he doesn't read the Scriptures.
    Or he rejects some of them.

    But in order to be a Christian, one must be a disciple of Jesus:

    Acts 11:26 . . . And the disciples were called Christians first in Antioch.

    The original Greek noun (mathetes: G3101) translated as "disciple" means "learner", just as the apostle Paul uses the verb form (manthano: G3129) of the Greek word to refer to what those in the Church have "learned" (Romans 16:17, Philippians 4:9; 2 Timothy 3:14), and need to "learn" (Titus 3:14), and can "learn" (1 Corinthians 14:31; 1 Corinthians 4:6).

    It is sometimes asked: "Is it possible to be a Christian without learning from and believing in Jesus' Word the Holy Bible?"

    The answer is No. For Jesus said:

    John 8:31b . . . If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed . . .

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    So a Christian cannot support homosexuality.

    For Romans 1:26 is referring to lesbians, who have unnatural, sexual affections for each other:

    Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature . . .

    And Romans 1:27 is referring to male homosexuals, "gays", who have unnatural, sexual lust for each other:

    Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

    Here the "recompence of their error" at the time that Romans 1:27 was written in the first century AD could have been hepatitis-type infections, but it would also include, in principle, the horrible AIDS plague in our own time.

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    It is sometimes asked: "But how can homosexuality be 'against nature'"?

    Homosexuality is "against nature" (Romans 1:26-27) in the sense of how God created nature to work:

    Matthew 19:4 . . . [Jesus] said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female,
    5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh?

    God never intended for males to become sexually joined or married to other males, just as God never intended for females to become sexually joined or married to other females.

    Homosexuality could be the result of how one was raised, that is, based on poor "nurture", rather than "nature".

    For example, boys who grew up without paternal love could be more likely to become gay.

    And girls who grew up without maternal love could be more likely to become lesbians.

    That is, their sexual orientation is a desperate striving for the love which they never got as children.

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    Sadly, some Christian sects have decided that homosexual relations is not a sin. Apparently he has latched on to that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusha View Post
    Funny post. Buttigieg says he is a Christian ... I have no reason not to believe him. Unless he appears on an Access Hollywood tape bragging about how his celebrity status allows him to commit sexual assault OR pays a porn star hush money to hide an adulterous affair, I will continue to believe him.
    So, what the Bible says about what it means to be a follower of Christ, and a child of God, is meaningless to you.

    It's interesting that you like and support Biden who has a long history of making passes at little girls and married women, exposing himself in front of women, cupping the breast of a SS agent's girlfriend in front of the SS agent, but dislike Trump for two instances of bad behavior. Your inconsistency is pretty stark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ffreeloader View Post
    So, what the Bible says about what it means to be a follower of Christ, and a child of God, is meaningless to you.

    It's interesting that you like and support Biden who has a long history of making passes at little girls and married women, exposing himself in front of women, cupping the breast of a SS agent's girlfriend in front of the SS agent, but dislike Trump for two instances of bad behavior. Your inconsistency is pretty stark.

    https://www.bizpacreview.com/2019/04...-stitch-739771

    https://twitter.com/RAMRANTS/status/...464576/video/1
    She's a perfect example of the type of irrational illogical emotional voter that the Democrats depend on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ok doser View Post
    She's a perfect example of the type of irrational illogical emotional voter that the Democrats depend on.
    i don't know that Rusha is irrational. I've seen her use quite rational arguments before. I would say where she ends up is a rational destination from the basic assumptions of her world view. In other words, she is an ideologue and really has no choice, emotionally, when it comes to looking deep inside and see if she is being honest with herself. She is far more like the white supremecists she hates than she would ever admit.

    Nazism was relentlessly logical not matter how irrational it looks to those of us who reject it's underlying basic assumptions. Socialist dogma is also relentlessly logical, if a person accepts Karl Marx's ridiculous assertions which he could never support against rational criticisms. That's why he and Engels never actually took on socialism's critics. They went straight to adhominen attacks, mockery, outright dismissal, saying their critics were just too stupid to understand socialism, etc... rather than actually engaging their critics on the issues socialism's critics raised. I've read Marx and all he does, basically, is make one unsupported assertion after another. He makes assumptions and then goes on from there leaving all proofs of his underlying assumptions completely unaddressed. His writings, as a result, are next to impossible to understand. They are very similar in that respect to socialism's darling in the field of economics, Maynard Keynes. His book General Theory was written as obtusely as possible so very few could actually refute his reasoning. Why? Because all he did was repackage economic theories that had already been debunked by his day. And this is the man the socialists love to use to prove debt is meaningless because, as Keynes said, anyone who saves money is a fool. Just spend everything you can earn, borrow, or steal because in the long run we're all dead anyway. Quite a philosophy to run a nation's economy by.

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