User Tag List

Page 7 of 42 FirstFirst ... 4567891017 ... LastLast
Results 91 to 105 of 616

Thread: Is the Law of Moses good or bad?

  1. #91
    Over 1000 post club Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 164 Times in 130 Posts

    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    12379
    Have you ever seen a person stoned to death? I have. It’s been on you tube. Did you know that there are still people who engage in this practice?

    Yep. There are.

    The one I saw was so brutal, I could hardly watch it. There was a Muslim woman, who had fallen in love with the wrong kind of a Muslim man, so they decided to kill her, and someone in the crowd captured it on their iPhone.

    Aside from how barbaric and ridiculously wrong that was....you know what really struck me?

    The woman, as she was dying, being pelted by rocks in the face that took a real long time to kill her...

    happened to fall down and her midriff appeared. So, while she was dying, because of her modesty, continued to try to pull her clothing back down so that her body would not be uncovered.

    Selah.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  2. The Following 2 Users Say Thank You to Guyver For Your Post:

    Arthur Brain (April 18th, 2019),k0de (April 16th, 2019)

  3. #92
    Over 1000 post club Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 164 Times in 130 Posts

    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    12379
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Me? Or anyone? Or the last person you posted to?

    I believe that there may still be a death penalty, but that Jesus did forgive her. Would there need to be two witnesses? Remember, it was he who is without sin cast the first stone. Only Jesus could have.

    I was asking for your opinion, or anyone who wished to speak to the point. You didn’t quite cover it did you?

    You left out the biggest gaping aspect.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  4. #93
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    Have you ever seen a person stoned to death? I have. It’s been on you tube. Did you know that there are still people who engage in this practice?

    Yep. There are.

    The one I saw was so brutal, I could hardly watch it. There was a Muslim woman, who had fallen in love with the wrong kind of a Muslim man, so they decided to kill her, and someone in the crowd captured it on their iPhone.

    Aside from how barbaric and ridiculously wrong that was....you know what really struck me?

    The woman, as she was dying, being pelted by rocks in the face that took a real long time to kill her...

    happened to fall down and her midriff appeared. So, while she was dying, because of her modesty, continued to try to pull her clothing back down so that her body would not be uncovered.

    Selah.
    I did not know about this I think, and no I have not.

  5. #94
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    I was asking for your opinion, or anyone who wished to speak to the point. You didn’t quite cover it did you?

    You left out the biggest gaping aspect.
    And what is that? I don't follow what you are saying to me or telling me. I do not know what you are saying or telling me.

  6. #95
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    In the Law of Moses, a woman, or a man being found to have committed adultery was to be stoned to death.

    But, in the New Testament, Jesus himself disagreed with that practice. Instead, he is said to have forgiven the woman who committed that crime, and is never recorded as having spoken to the man who was guilty of this crime.

    What do you think about this fact?
    I do not know what to think about it.

  7. #96
    Over 1000 post club Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 164 Times in 130 Posts

    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    12379
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    And what is that? I don't follow what you are saying to me or telling me. I do not know what you are saying or telling me.
    I’m saying there was a sacrifice in the law of Moses to atone for the crime of violating Sabbath work laws, so the man need not be killed, his wife left a widow, and his children fatherless. I’m suggesting that killing the man for picking up sticks was unjust, and it seems Jesus would agree since he forbade the stoning of a much more egregious sin.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  8. #97
    Over 1000 post club Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 164 Times in 130 Posts

    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    12379
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    I do not know what to think about it.

    Honesty is becoming. You have answered wisely.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  9. #98
    Super Moderator JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    9,762
    Thanks
    33,184
    Thanked 8,384 Times in 5,366 Posts

    Mentioned
    76 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147634
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    As well you should. Why would a person withhold from themselves the right to doubt anything that hasn’t been shown to be true?

    Only because of religious fear.

    “Doubting Thomas?” Poor old Tom....huh? You’d think he was Hitler the way some people see it.

    IDK, I’m going back here....but it seems like there is a DC Talk verse that talks about God being bigger than my doubts...or maybe it was Switchfoot. Can’t remember.
    You going to answer the rest of my post?
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post


    I doubt that very much.



    Jesus is not inconsistent with Himself.

    See the question at the end of this post.



    What you think is irrelevant.

    The Bible was written by about 40 authors over a period of about 1650 years.

    That's a fact.



    Reference please.



    Which parts? And when were they edited?

    Because if you compare the Dead Sea Scrolls (written around 150 B.C, and discovered in 1946) with the modern versions of the Old Testament, they are, for all intents and purposes, identical, with variations on the spelling of words and different phrasing, but the message remains the same.



    References, please.

    Saying it doesn't make it so.



    The term Christian applies to believers who came after Paul, in the manner of Paul.

    In other words, there was no such thing as a Christian during Jesus' time on earth. Ergo, He couldn't have claimed what you are saying.



    No, He said that marriage between a man and a woman was intended to last forever, BUT that it was allowed only for reasons of sexual immorality.



    You seem to have the terms "peacemaker" and "pacifist" confused.

    A pacifist is one who does not want any conflict of any kind, even if it means that they themselves will be subjugated to tyranny.

    A peacemaker is one who acknowledges that some conflict is necessary, and that peace will not come about by disarmament.



    First of all, You're on a Christian board. Please do not be vulgar when attributing things to God.

    Second, not only did He not rebut "eye for an eye" punishments, but He reaffirmed them.

    He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition?For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”—then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition.Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth, And honor Me with their lips, But their heart is far from Me.And in vain they worship Me, Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ” - Matthew 15:3-9 http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/...9&version=NKJV



    Please provide the post number where you did this.



    The Babylonians got it from the Israelites.



    Nope.



    And?

    Show us how that goes against what was given to Moses.



    Yet you have yet to show us where Jesus contradicted the Law.



    But you haven't shown us why...



    I didn't think answering a simple question would necessitate another thread...



    Duh.



    So, you'd be affirming my position, that God gives different instructions to different people at different times?

    Go right ahead.



    Except when it comes to morality.

    On that, the Bible is very clear.



    Already been done.

    Check out "The Plot: An Overview of the Bible" by Pastor Bob Enyart.



    Again, if your argument is that God tells different people at different times to do different things, then I agree.

    If your argument, however, is that morality is arbitrary, then I disagree, and posit that morality is absolute, and I question (yet again) your knowledge of what the Bible says.

    ----

    Oh, by the way, would you mind answering this question? I'd appreciate it.

  10. #99
    Super Moderator JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    9,762
    Thanks
    33,184
    Thanked 8,384 Times in 5,366 Posts

    Mentioned
    76 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147634
    Unlike Guyver here, I can answer your question without any hesitation.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    If someone murders a person, what is to be done? Should they be put to death?
    After a speedy trial (which is the right of the victims, not the accused), where a conviction is made on two or three witnesses, a convicted murderer should be put to death swiftly and painfully.

    That is the death penalty. A person put to death is killed but not murdered, if it is for the murder they committed.
    Yup.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    Sorry, I can’t give you an instant answer on that question.
    This coming from someone who claims to know what the Bible says on absolute morality...

    That's sad.

    It would take me along time to present the view on it I currently hold.
    In other words, it's your opinion, and not objective truth?

    But, to save some time, I will ask you this.

    Are you aware that in the United States of America, in recent years and decades it has been shown that people have been executed for crimes they did not commit?

    This being so, it is my opinion that the death penalty, though sometimes probably beneficially applied, should be outlawed because if even one innocent person has been killed because of it, it is wrong. IMO.
    Outlawing a just punishment because of a corrupt legal system?

    That's real smart, and will TOTALLY not lead to even more degradation of society... /s

    Did you know that it's also just as wrong to let go those who should be put to death?

  11. #100
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    I’m saying there was a sacrifice in the law of Moses to atone for the crime of violating Sabbath work laws, so the man need not be killed, his wife left a widow, and his children fatherless. I’m suggesting that killing the man for picking up sticks was unjust, and it seems Jesus would agree since he forbade the stoning of a much more egregious sin.
    Where do I read about this?

  12. #101
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by Guyver View Post
    Honesty is becoming. You have answered wisely.
    Thank you, I think.

  13. #102
    BANNED
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Location
    Lakewood, Washington
    Posts
    18,785
    Thanks
    126
    Thanked 947 Times in 871 Posts

    Mentioned
    39 Post(s)
    Tagged
    1 Thread(s)
    Rep Power
    0
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    Unlike Guyver here, I can answer your question without any hesitation.



    After a speedy trial (which is the right of the victims, not the accused), where a conviction is made on two or three witnesses, a convicted murderer should be put to death swiftly and painfully.



    Yup.


    The right to a trial. Where do we learn about that?

  14. #103
    Over 1000 post club Guyver's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2008
    Location
    Tardation
    Posts
    1,022
    Thanks
    111
    Thanked 164 Times in 130 Posts

    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)

    Rep Power
    12379
    Quote Originally Posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    You going to answer the rest of my post?
    If it please you, sure. I will when I have that kind of time. That is a really long post. That’s why I try to make points and split them into separate posts. That way, a person can address a point or two at a time, rather than going genesis to revelation on every post.
    Sometimes the hardest thing and the right thing are the same.

  15. #104
    Super Moderator JudgeRightly's Avatar
    Join Date
    Feb 2015
    Location
    On the road
    Posts
    9,762
    Thanks
    33,184
    Thanked 8,384 Times in 5,366 Posts

    Mentioned
    76 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147634
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    The right to a trial. Where do we learn about that?
    The Law.

  16. #105
    Toxic Adaptive Ninja Turtle Stripe's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2004
    Location
    Taipei, Taiwan
    Posts
    18,741
    Thanks
    486
    Thanked 12,426 Times in 8,843 Posts

    Blog Entries
    2
    Mentioned
    36 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)


    Rep Power
    2147848
    Quote Originally Posted by Jacob View Post
    Is the Law of Moses good?
    It beats what man thinks is the law:

    https://youtu.be/nZa0LxmFTkI

    By. a. lot.
    Where is the evidence for a global flood?
    E≈mc2
    "the best maths don't need no stinkin' numbers"

    "The waters under the 'expanse' were under the crust."
    -Bob B.

  17. The Following User Says Thank You to Stripe For Your Post:

    JudgeRightly (April 16th, 2019)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
About us
Since 1997 TheologyOnline (TOL) has been one of the most popular theology forums on the internet. On TOL we encourage spirited conversation about religion, politics, and just about everything else.

follow us